Wednesday, October 02, 2019

Continued from previous entry - Complaint Page 2 - 3.

Footnote 2 was referring to Footnote 7.

Footnote 3 It makes a reference to FOX News and Mr. Podesta telling the FBI to get out of someplace. Evidently, the STORY Trump is trying to peddle is there is a missing server and Podesta would know where it is and it is somewhere in Ukraine. The Whistleblower doesn't know why Trump affiliates a server with Ukraine. Most people that live logical lies won't understand that either, but, the Trump Koolaid demands magical thinking to understand a mysterious storyline which obviously includes a devious Ukraine government completely dedicated to the election of Hillary Clinton. What is so hard to understand about that?

Below is the beginning of Page 3 of the Whistleblower complaint.













The phone calls between these two men and quite possibly the previous President of Ukraine need to be examined. The understanding Trump has in his conversation is advanced in regard to the particulars of another investigation with Joe and Hunter Biden being the focus. There is a clear understanding of the removal of Prosecutor General Lutsenko from office. Trump states perhaps he needs to stay in his office. Why would he make that statement unless he has spoken previously to President Zelenskyy about the issue? There is every reason to believe there are more than two phone calls as well. Rudy Guiliani was in Ukraine many times. He would have been asking the president of Ukraine to carry out another investigation. So, the basis of this complaint spans more time than just three to four months. Is there any chance Trump has a separate cell phone he uses for political reasons and uses that phone to make calls to heads of state?

In parentheses, March 2019 Mr. Lutsenko made public allegations about the Biden family's activities in Ukraine involving the 2016 elections and the US Embassy in Kiev. There is a further explanation in Part IV.

Below is Part 4 beginning on page 4 of the complaint.

There are a lot of inflammatory titles starting in March of 2019 in The Hill about Ukraine. The Hill's collection of articles begins on March 20, 2019.

Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko (click here) told Hill.TV's John Solomon in an interview that aired Wednesday that U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch gave him a do not prosecute list during their first meeting....

This article is about $4.4 million dollars that were understood to be provided to the Prosecutor General from the USA. The article comes to no conclusions and prevents sketchy information. There is absolutely no mention of VP Biden or Hunter Biden in any way.

That same day, March 20, 2019. there is an article stating Ukraine was opening up a probe about USA election interference. This is news to me. I have not heard anything about a Ukraine investigation into USA election interference and obviously this a political magazine.  I don't believe the Special Counsel entertained articles in popular newsprint.

Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko (click here) told Hill.TV’s John Solomon in an interview aired on Wednesday that he has opened a probe into alleged attempts by Ukrainians to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election....

...Lutsenko is probing a claim from a member of the Ukrainian parliament that the director of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), Artem Sytnyk (click here), attempted to influence the 2016 vote to the benefit of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton....

...NABU issued a statement on Friday, calling Lutsenko's comments "not true and is an absurd effort to discredit an independent anti-corruption agency."...

22 March 2019

The statement of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine, (click here) who publicly said that the National Anti-Corruption Bureau could have influenced the US presidential election, is not true and is an absurd effort to discredit an independent anti-corruption agency.

Over the past four years, the National Bureau has repeatedly proven to be an apolitical law enforcement agency. After the establishment of the NABU, for the first time in the history of Ukraine, arrests of top-officials (previously considered as “untouchable”) have started. However, even in such circumstances, it is hard to believe that a newly established law enforcement agency in a country that went through the Revolution of Dignity could somehow influence the US presidential election process in 2016....

This is a matter of who do people believe. This is part of the restructuring of any government when there has been revolution. Be clear, the revolution in Ukraine was exactly that. It removed the communist-backed Russian that was president of Ukraine. So, some of this mess is nothing more than a mess until evidence is provided. The question in instances like this is not who does one believe, but, where is the evidence about the allegations.

I will continue to read the reports by the Hill for now. This revolves around Paul Manafort. I am quite confident some of this is connected to an embarrassment Ukraine feels for their country's involvement with Paul Manafort. My initial impression is there is nothing to this complaint about Ukraine interference and benefit the Clinton Campaign.

It is pretty clear that these speculations in "The Hill" involves questions by Ukrainians of their Prosecutor General and how Paul Manafort got away with his escapades. Ukraine should not be so hard on itself. Paul Manafort was involved with an obviously corrupt Ukraine political party. 

The Party of Regions “black ledger” — more than 800 pages of records, passed by the former First Deputy Head of the Security Service of Ukraine Viktor Trepak to the NABU on May 27, 2016. The records allegedly contain data on multiple payments from the shadow cashbox of the Party of Regions to Ukrainian top-officials and civil activists.


There is nothing here that pertains to Joe Biden and there is nothing here that implicates Hillary Clinton either. Ukrainian officials simply can't believe Paul Manafort was carrying on within the borders of their country and it was never found until the FBI  brought the convictions.

It would appear there may be extensive corruption involved with Manafort. There is an extensive article about Manafort and Ukraine monies paid to him right upto the point he resigned from Chairmanship of the Trump Campaign.

...From 2004 to 2014, (click here) Manafort had advised President Viktor Yanukovych, who advocated that his country sever ties with the United States and other Western nations, and align itself more closely with Vladimir Putin’s Russia. After Yanukovych fled the country in disgrace in 2014, a ledger was recovered from the burned-out ruins of his Party of Regions. Its records showed that Yanukovych and his political allies had made some $12.7 million in secret cash payments to Manafort. The disclosure led directly to Manafort’s resignation in August 2016 as chairman of the Trump presidential campaign....

At any rate, Joe and Hunter Biden are yet to be even mentioned in the stories on the Hill or within the supporting documents in the articles. I found the article above on my own which provides some insight into bigger issues.

The interference that was supposed to have benefitted the Clinton Campaign was released records of the financial files of the Party of Nation's "black ledger." There is no release of secret files or monies provided. The Clinton Campaign would have indirectly benefited from those financial files that would embarrass Paul Manafort, hence benefit Clinton over Trump.

That is the ghost Trump is chasing. I have seen entries from those files, but, it was in the Special Counsel report and is on this blog. The entire circus Trump is crying about is a false trail out of embarrassment by Ukraine.

Footnote 4 on Page 4 of the complaint is about a report in a news publication, OCCRP (click here) 

22 July 2019

Two Soviet-born Florida businessmen (click here)  — one linked to a Ukrainian tycoon with reputed mafia ties — are key hidden actors behind a plan by U.S. President Donald J. Trump’s personal attorney to investigate the president’s rivals.

Trump’s attorney, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, said in May that he planned to visit then-incoming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to win support for probes into potentially damaging claims raised by senior Ukrainian officials.

Among them was the misleading contention that Trump’s main 2020 Democratic rival, Joe Biden, improperly pressured Ukraine’s government to fire a top prosecutor; that American diplomats in Ukraine had exhibited pro-Democrat bias; and that local officials conspired to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign and help Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Giuliani set off a firestorm in the conservative media by promoting the allegations....


According to that same footnote, there were several people affiliated wtih the new president Guiliani met with; Ivan Bakanov (click here) and Serhiy Shefir (see below):

...Some view his cabinet choices, (click here) especially Bohdan, as ominous since most are close associates and friends. Serhiy Shefir, now Zelensky’s first aide, is a longtime business partner and friend....

I think interrupting the complaint with Page 4 would be an injustice.

Continued in the next entry and returning to the beginning of Page 3 of the complaint.