Thursday, January 09, 2020

Two different jets. Were they both shot down. It doesn't appear that way.

One of these jets was definitely hit by a powerful missile, Malaysian Airlines flight MH17. Care to render a guess? The debris fields are different. I am not an inspector, but, since the authorities are leaving his up to others to decide, I can try to find similarities to find where a powerful explosion from a missile brought down a commercial airliner.

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July 18, 2014

By BellaNaija.com

The final Facebook (click here) post of a passenger who was on the Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, is currently trending.


Hours before the plane crashed in Ukraine, a man believed to be a passenger made reference to the missing Malaysian Airlines MH370 which mysteriously vanished in March.


On his Facebook page, Cor Pan shared a photo of the plane he was about boarding with a caption, “Mocht hij verdwijnen , zo ziet hij d’r uit”. It has been translated to “If it disappears, this is what it looks like”....


I really think this is a no brainer and here is why:


How MH17 Came Apart Over Ukraine (click here)


The Malaysian flight was hit at a higher altitude and with a missile strike; the debris field is much larger as the pieces feel from the sky.



The center structure is number 3 and the debris field is huge and on closer inspection is decimated. The other parts of the jet were further downfield and mostly intact. The missile obviously exploded the main body of the jet in Ukraine.


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January 9, 2020

By Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown, Barbara Starr and Maegan Vazquez

The US increasingly believes that Iran (click here) mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner on Wednesday, according to multiple US officials. The working theory is based on continuing analysis of data from satellites, radar and electronic data collected routinely by US military and intelligence.


President Donald Trump on Thursday said he suspected the crash was not due to mechanical issues, indicating that "somebody could have made a mistake on the other side."


Asked during a White House event what he thought happened to the plane, Trump said, "Well, I have my suspicions."...


The disruption of the 737-800 was at a far lower altitude and occurred on take off. It is difficult to believe an Iranian military missile could carry out such a trajectory. It was too low to the ground for the type of missiles Iran was firing into Iraq. This was either something that went wrong with the jet itself which is indicated by the reverse course of the pilot or a rocket fired from the ground similar to that fired at an Israeli jet in Kenya years ago by terrorists.


Wikipedia:


Almost simultaneous to the attack on the hotel, (click here) two shoulder-launched Strela 2 (SA-7) surface-to-air missiles were fired at a chartered Boeing 757 airliner owned by Israel-based Arkia Airlines as it took off from Moi International Airport. The Arkia charter company had a regular weekly service flying tourists between Tel Aviv and Mombasa. Kenyan police discovered a missile launcher and two missile casings in the Changamwe area of Mombasa, about 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) from the airport. The pilots planned on an emergency landing in Nairobi after seeing the two missiles streak past them, but decided to continue to Israel. The airliner landed at Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv about five hours later, escorted by Israeli F-15 fighter jets.[7] Following the attack, all flights from Israel to Kenya were cancelled indefinitely.


It is grossly hostile and negligent to simply accuse the Iran government of downing a commercial jet when absolutely nothing is known officially about this crash, except, that it happened. Here again the Trump administration is putting a political spin on this to benefit some kind of idea of omnipotent knowledge of events as they happen. Trump's administration is FRAUDULENT in their assessment. These assessments don't happen overnight. Evidence to the cause of such downings takes months and years to determine.


January 8, 2020

By Taylor Telford and Douglas MacMillan

As investigators scramble (click here) to determine what caused a Boeing 737-800 to crash early Wednesday, the plane’s maker is grappling with another catastrophe as it continues to reel from its 737 Max crisis.


The Ukraine-bound 737-800 crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran’s main international airport, killing all 176 on board. Early reports from Iranian state media attributed the crash to engine failure. Ukraine’s embassy in Iran at first concurred, issuing a statement ruling out terrorism, but then removed it without explanation.


A later statement from the embassy said a panel has begun an investigation and “any statements about the causes of the accident before the decision of the commission are not official.”...


Ukraine is taking the correct and best approach to this downing. There has to be evidence, such as what caused the explosion or fire. Residues can be found at a microscopic level if this were an artificial explosion caused by a bomb on board or a rocket in proximity to the jet. Either way, Ukraine will have an answer for everyone once proper forensics occurs.


The statements out of Washington, DC are inflammatory.