Wednesday, July 22, 2015

Former Senator Santorum states, "I know of people that engaged in the gay lifestyle that does no more.

THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT (click here)
Syllabus
After being charged with violating the Georgia statute criminalizing sodomy by committing that act with another adult male in the bedroom of his home, respondent Hardwick (respondent) brought suit in Federal District Court, challenging the constitutionality of the statute insofar as it criminalized consensual sodomy. The court granted the defendants' motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. The Court of Appeals reversed and remanded, holding that the Georgia statute violated respondent's fundamental rights.

Held: The Georgia statute is constitutional. Pp. 478 U. S. 190-196.

(a) The Constitution does not confer a fundamental right upon homosexuals to engage in sodomy. None of the fundamental rights announced in this Court's prior cases involving family relationships, marriage, or procreation bear any resemblance to the right asserted in this case. And any claim that those cases stand for the proposition that any kind of private sexual conduct between consenting adults is constitutionally insulated from state proscription is unsupportable. Pp. 478 U. S. 190-191....

I suppose if a Christian decides that the LGBTQ community is strange and should not be entitled to the rights other Americans enjoy, having a same sex relationship fail only to have a heterosexual relationship manifest, it would be a victory for God.


I am not interested in debating theology, but, when relationships fail it is usually because the married couple no longer finds themselves in love with each other. The idea that a gay relationship failed only to find the man now married to a woman is not a victory for anyone except the newly married couple. 

Men and women fall in and out of love. They may find themselves interested in a relationship with their own gender is a very loving relationship. Everyone wants a marriage to work. As Americans we always want to see the couple that is married for decades. Indeed, the 25th wedding anniversary is a silver anniversary and the 50 a gold anniversary. For Americans success is a solid relationship that survives time and trials. 

When a person enters into a same sex relationship that leads to marriage it is because the two people are in love with each other. That is all that is required to be married. If the same sex couple runs into difficult times and separate and divorce it is because it didn't work out. If one or both of the divorced couple falls in love with a member of the opposite sex, the only thing that defines is the understanding bisexuality exists. That is all there is to it. There is no reason for any religious figures popular or otherwise to rejoice at the failure of a same sex relationship. It proves nothing except another marriage in the USA failed. 

Any idea there is a special religious status to ending a same sex marriage and then marrying the opposite gender defines religious bigotry. Just that simple. 

[June 26, 2003]


Liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions into a dwelling or other private places. In our tradition the State is not omnipresent in the home. And there are other spheres of our lives and existence, outside the home, where the State should not be a dominant presence. Freedom extends beyond spatial bounds. Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. The instant case involves liberty of the person both in its spatial and more transcendent dimensions....

According to Chief Justice John Roberts, the decision regarding same sex marriage is based in liberty removed from people due to gender. 

Of course, Judge Alito sees the sky falling.

15 July 2015
By Courtney Corem 
 
He argued that in Obergefell v. Hodges, (click here) the marriage decision that the Supreme Court was ruling on, that liberty was defined as a guarantee under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to be "the freedom to define your understanding of the meaning of life."

If that's the case, Alito told The Weekly Standard, "there's no limit."

The Supreme Court justice said that the Rehnquist court had worked to limit legal definitions of liberty to those that were "deeply rooted in the traditions of the country."

"But the Obergefell decision threw that out," Alito said. "It did not claim that there was a strong tradition of protecting the right to same-sex marriage. This would have been impossible to find."

Alito contends that without limits on the legal definition of liberty, that constitutional rights could be handed out by justices according to their ideological whims, which also means the nominating a justice will be more like a political election, he said....
 
Christians should build their church on their own rock and not the civil rights of all Americans. There is absolutely no way a religious preference (It has always been my understanding Americans DECIDE what religion to practice.) should be levied against the liberties of all other Americans.