Okay. Some of the agitation resulted from a dropping blood pressure.
Changes in mental status (difficulty concentrating, confusion) or a sense of "impending doom" or anxiety. (click here)
A trauma patient has to be transported immediately if at all possible. There are a few issues with trauma wounds including infection. I assume bullets are not sterile. So, when a bullet enters the body there is a lot going on.
Right about now the right wing control freaks are stating, "What right does she have in even be interested in the outcome of a felon?"
What right? Every right. The fact of the matter is everyone in the USA is considered innocent until proven guilty. There are also habeas corpus RIGHTS afforded everyone in the USA, be they ordinary citizen, criminal or Undocumented. Everyone in the USA is considered a person unto themselves and that is protected by law.
This is a prime example of how a police sting operation can go wrong. Very few times are emergency facilities provided with any insight to the potential for gun shot wounds sustained by officers and/or those involved in what is perceived as crime. If police would just have an EMT station on alert to potential trauma due to a police operation, they might even protect their own.
Why weren't the EMTs in touch with the hospital emergency room so they could be providing information about an incoming patient including ETA?
I guarantee you police have no clue about what to expect after a shooting. The sudden insult to the body, the loss of large amounts of blood and the signs and symptoms of blood loss and HYPOTENSION due to that INJURY.
The report today by "Tulsa World" and the added video of Mr. Harris provides more information about the police operation. I'm sorry, but, I don't know why Mr. Harris was even the suspect of a sting operation unless this was evidence of a much larger gun purchasing organization that sends weapons to Mexico.
I am fed up with police operations and arrests that kill Americans when they are MARGINALLY in offense of the law. We saw the same type of operation with Mr. Garner. The police have NO BIG FISH to fry and they are focusing on what is basically minimal crime? I don't find Mr. Harris's backpack as a location for anything other than one gun he wanted to sell. That is a major offense in Tulsa?
April 13, 2015
By Corey Jones
“The (patient) was very combative physically, (click here) and we were unable to get him to hold still long enough to get any accurate vitals,” the report reads.
The report further states that firefighters tried to communicate with Harris but he “ignored most all questions,” the only information gleaned was his name from a credit card and an age he told them.
He soon was transferred to EMSA’s care at which point the narrative indicates his condition began to deteriorate.
“He became unresponsive and eventually went into cardiac arrest,” according to the report, which also states firefighters began to perform cardio-pulmonary resuscitation.
There are two critical things to take from the report that are inconsistent with what the Sheriff’s Office has released, Smolen said.
The first, he noted, is that deputies couldn’t have been rendering aid to Harris as he sat with his hands cuffed behind his back.
“Because of the position that he was in, nobody could have been rendering any aid to him,” Smolen said. “That’s why the Fire Department had to order him to be unhandcuffed and laid down before they could start CPR.”
Asked if the clotting of the wound was indicative of receiving treatment, Smolen said the question would be best answered by a doctor.
Tulsa County sheriff’s Maj. Shannon Clark said there is only so much deputies can do for a gunshot victim without access to equipment in an ambulance and medical professionals.
Exactly the point. In the field an EMT could start fluids to provide additional blood volume to the victim.
When a person receives a gun shot would the very first thing anyone on the scene can do is apply pressure to the wound CONTINUALLY until the EMTs arrive. The victim should never be told or forced to sit up because that only increases the chance the brain is not getting enough blood and circulation is compromised. The gun shot victim should be kept lying until help arrives as the pressure is continued at the site.
Putting pressure on a wound and even placing a bandage to protect the wound site from further contamination is BASIC FIRST AID. You mean to tell me police officers don't know basic first aid?
Deputies applied pressure to Harris’ wound, Clark said, and they also sat him up so he could breathe more easily because he complained he was having difficulties breathing. He was deemed a threat by deputies, who still believed him to be armed, so he remained in cuffs, Clark said....
The idea the police would actually provide any protection to the gun shot victim's health is not an issue, if the police aren't shooting people instead of chasing them. Mr. Harris was already on the ground by the police when he was shot.
Clark said the video released by the Sheriff’s Office clearly shows Harris continued to resist deputies until they had him detained.
“Once the hands went behind his back and were secured, there was no more resistance,” Clark said.
That is a really lousy definition of resistance to police if it allows additional assaults to the body such as taser, chock hold and/or gun shots. There are several officers there and the suspect was limited in his motion. There was no reason to render him unconscious by any means, including taser. HE WAS UNARMED.
Smolen also calls into question statements from the Sheriff’s Office asserting Harris admitted to medical personnel that he was on a drug called PCP.
The Fire Department report makes no direct mention of PCP. In a section on spinal immobilization, “Yes” is typed in a field for evidence of alcohol or drug impairment. However, on the report’s front page under clinical impressions “Unknown” is typed next to the alcohol/drugs question.
PCP. Does anyone in the law enforcement community believe there are difficult patients to control in a hospital?
The hospital doesn't use guns and tasers to control patients, they use medical personnel to bring a patient into a restraint position and at the very worst four point restraint is used.
There were at least three cars and six police involved in Mr. Harris's death. It is on the first video. That is six people supposedly able to come to the purpose of restraining an unarmed person. That's not enough? The EMT were on the way and with a physician's permission could have injected the suspect with a medication to reduce or completely end the struggle.
Any person receiving any wounds regardless of where or how should be evaluated by the emergency room for potential complications. But, a sting operation can avoid a lot of lost time and danger to life if they only plan for it.
My first opportunity to understand the interaction of law enforcement with the Black Community was Trayvon Martin. The loss of innocent Black lives started long before then. But, since I have been paying closer attention to police methodology and this covert culture of lies in documentation, it is very easy to say the USA has some of the most unprepared police officers on the planet. For police forces that rely on guns to control behavior, I would think they would have their act together simply to avoid any potential murder charges.
But, until recently, police were above the law, so why would anyone bother about it.
I know there are better ways and there are plenty of people in the USA right now who are retired that knows there are better ways, too. So, what seems to be the problem?
“We are not interested in playing this entire case out in the court of public opinion,” Clark said, adding that if Smolen feels there are issues surrounding the situation, he can pursue legal recourse.
The statement should have read, "We are not interested in any demonstrations by the Black Community." Public opinion? There is no opinion here, there is profound fear for lives not held in esteem and very lax police work and standards on a regular basis.
Is it that difficult to find quality police officers?
The short courses in police training have to end and be replaced with far longer preparedness. Longer courses for expertise rather than man hours will result in a safer public, rather than a public that grows increasing concerned for police work and the deaths it causes. "Police in Training" can still work, but, in a diminished capacity.
There has to be sincere changes in the training of police officers INCLUDING reports about their culture on a regular basis. The culture has got to go. There is a wall of silence between the officers and the truth.
What is really scary is the very fact this is happening across the country.
See the entry below and before this entry? Snowflakes. That is me. I worry about Earth more than anyone can imagine. Now, how is it I have so many entries that aren't about snowflakes? Huh? This was not a routine or profession for me, okay? Think about it.
Changes in mental status (difficulty concentrating, confusion) or a sense of "impending doom" or anxiety. (click here)
A trauma patient has to be transported immediately if at all possible. There are a few issues with trauma wounds including infection. I assume bullets are not sterile. So, when a bullet enters the body there is a lot going on.
Right about now the right wing control freaks are stating, "What right does she have in even be interested in the outcome of a felon?"
What right? Every right. The fact of the matter is everyone in the USA is considered innocent until proven guilty. There are also habeas corpus RIGHTS afforded everyone in the USA, be they ordinary citizen, criminal or Undocumented. Everyone in the USA is considered a person unto themselves and that is protected by law.
This is a prime example of how a police sting operation can go wrong. Very few times are emergency facilities provided with any insight to the potential for gun shot wounds sustained by officers and/or those involved in what is perceived as crime. If police would just have an EMT station on alert to potential trauma due to a police operation, they might even protect their own.
Why weren't the EMTs in touch with the hospital emergency room so they could be providing information about an incoming patient including ETA?
I guarantee you police have no clue about what to expect after a shooting. The sudden insult to the body, the loss of large amounts of blood and the signs and symptoms of blood loss and HYPOTENSION due to that INJURY.
The report today by "Tulsa World" and the added video of Mr. Harris provides more information about the police operation. I'm sorry, but, I don't know why Mr. Harris was even the suspect of a sting operation unless this was evidence of a much larger gun purchasing organization that sends weapons to Mexico.
I am fed up with police operations and arrests that kill Americans when they are MARGINALLY in offense of the law. We saw the same type of operation with Mr. Garner. The police have NO BIG FISH to fry and they are focusing on what is basically minimal crime? I don't find Mr. Harris's backpack as a location for anything other than one gun he wanted to sell. That is a major offense in Tulsa?
April 13, 2015
By Corey Jones
“The (patient) was very combative physically, (click here) and we were unable to get him to hold still long enough to get any accurate vitals,” the report reads.
The report further states that firefighters tried to communicate with Harris but he “ignored most all questions,” the only information gleaned was his name from a credit card and an age he told them.
He soon was transferred to EMSA’s care at which point the narrative indicates his condition began to deteriorate.
“He became unresponsive and eventually went into cardiac arrest,” according to the report, which also states firefighters began to perform cardio-pulmonary resuscitation.
There are two critical things to take from the report that are inconsistent with what the Sheriff’s Office has released, Smolen said.
The first, he noted, is that deputies couldn’t have been rendering aid to Harris as he sat with his hands cuffed behind his back.
“Because of the position that he was in, nobody could have been rendering any aid to him,” Smolen said. “That’s why the Fire Department had to order him to be unhandcuffed and laid down before they could start CPR.”
Asked if the clotting of the wound was indicative of receiving treatment, Smolen said the question would be best answered by a doctor.
Tulsa County sheriff’s Maj. Shannon Clark said there is only so much deputies can do for a gunshot victim without access to equipment in an ambulance and medical professionals.
Exactly the point. In the field an EMT could start fluids to provide additional blood volume to the victim.
When a person receives a gun shot would the very first thing anyone on the scene can do is apply pressure to the wound CONTINUALLY until the EMTs arrive. The victim should never be told or forced to sit up because that only increases the chance the brain is not getting enough blood and circulation is compromised. The gun shot victim should be kept lying until help arrives as the pressure is continued at the site.
Putting pressure on a wound and even placing a bandage to protect the wound site from further contamination is BASIC FIRST AID. You mean to tell me police officers don't know basic first aid?
Deputies applied pressure to Harris’ wound, Clark said, and they also sat him up so he could breathe more easily because he complained he was having difficulties breathing. He was deemed a threat by deputies, who still believed him to be armed, so he remained in cuffs, Clark said....
The idea the police would actually provide any protection to the gun shot victim's health is not an issue, if the police aren't shooting people instead of chasing them. Mr. Harris was already on the ground by the police when he was shot.
Clark said the video released by the Sheriff’s Office clearly shows Harris continued to resist deputies until they had him detained.
“Once the hands went behind his back and were secured, there was no more resistance,” Clark said.
That is a really lousy definition of resistance to police if it allows additional assaults to the body such as taser, chock hold and/or gun shots. There are several officers there and the suspect was limited in his motion. There was no reason to render him unconscious by any means, including taser. HE WAS UNARMED.
Smolen also calls into question statements from the Sheriff’s Office asserting Harris admitted to medical personnel that he was on a drug called PCP.
The Fire Department report makes no direct mention of PCP. In a section on spinal immobilization, “Yes” is typed in a field for evidence of alcohol or drug impairment. However, on the report’s front page under clinical impressions “Unknown” is typed next to the alcohol/drugs question.
PCP. Does anyone in the law enforcement community believe there are difficult patients to control in a hospital?
The hospital doesn't use guns and tasers to control patients, they use medical personnel to bring a patient into a restraint position and at the very worst four point restraint is used.
There were at least three cars and six police involved in Mr. Harris's death. It is on the first video. That is six people supposedly able to come to the purpose of restraining an unarmed person. That's not enough? The EMT were on the way and with a physician's permission could have injected the suspect with a medication to reduce or completely end the struggle.
Any person receiving any wounds regardless of where or how should be evaluated by the emergency room for potential complications. But, a sting operation can avoid a lot of lost time and danger to life if they only plan for it.
My first opportunity to understand the interaction of law enforcement with the Black Community was Trayvon Martin. The loss of innocent Black lives started long before then. But, since I have been paying closer attention to police methodology and this covert culture of lies in documentation, it is very easy to say the USA has some of the most unprepared police officers on the planet. For police forces that rely on guns to control behavior, I would think they would have their act together simply to avoid any potential murder charges.
But, until recently, police were above the law, so why would anyone bother about it.
I know there are better ways and there are plenty of people in the USA right now who are retired that knows there are better ways, too. So, what seems to be the problem?
“We are not interested in playing this entire case out in the court of public opinion,” Clark said, adding that if Smolen feels there are issues surrounding the situation, he can pursue legal recourse.
The statement should have read, "We are not interested in any demonstrations by the Black Community." Public opinion? There is no opinion here, there is profound fear for lives not held in esteem and very lax police work and standards on a regular basis.
Is it that difficult to find quality police officers?
The short courses in police training have to end and be replaced with far longer preparedness. Longer courses for expertise rather than man hours will result in a safer public, rather than a public that grows increasing concerned for police work and the deaths it causes. "Police in Training" can still work, but, in a diminished capacity.
There has to be sincere changes in the training of police officers INCLUDING reports about their culture on a regular basis. The culture has got to go. There is a wall of silence between the officers and the truth.
What is really scary is the very fact this is happening across the country.
See the entry below and before this entry? Snowflakes. That is me. I worry about Earth more than anyone can imagine. Now, how is it I have so many entries that aren't about snowflakes? Huh? This was not a routine or profession for me, okay? Think about it.
