Sydney woman Karen Nettleton pictured with two of her grandchildren who are now living in Syria. Photo: Supplied
June 28, 2015
Eamonn Duff
Karen Nettleton (click here) was watching television at her Sydney home when a text arrived from her granddaughter in Syria.
"Hello Nana, how are you? My husband got hit by a drone yesterday and got killed. When I found out I was happy for him to get what he wanted and go to paradise but at the same time I was devastated because I loved him so much and I knew I was never gonna see him again in this life."
These were the extraordinary words sent eight days ago to Ms Nettleton from her eldest grandchild Zaynab, who at 13 years of age, had just become the widow of infamous Sydney jihadist Mohamed Elomar....
Age 13. She never knew what it was to be a child and a respected woman. The men are obsessed with the idea of a virgin. Children are not only soldiers, they are wives and some are mothers.
...Stranded in an Islamic State stronghold, Zaynab and her four younger siblings find themselves at the heart of a national political debate as to whether they – and their mother Tara – should be allowed to return to Australia and if so, whether criminal charges should be laid. The argument deepened last week when it emerged that Elomar was killed in a drone strike, allegedly alongside his best friend and Tara's own terrorist husband Khaled Sharrouf – who shifted the family to Syria....
A husband and wife from Australia bought into the idea of a caliphate and moved to Syria with their five children. The thirteen year old was married, is now a widow expecting her first child. This is nuts. What was the problem unemployment?
The FBI in the USA has run sting operations where they picked up those so inclined to believe they could actually find material to carry out a mass killing. What the heck is this already? This is crazy? Wackos from Afghanistan who boarded jets to carry out a final expression of hate against the USA is more understandable than this. This is like nothing I understand. A mother and father allows their child to be a bride and sex object to a man who believes the best way forward for people is to commit genocide at every turn. This is more than hate. This is depersonalized demand via polemical.
In order to dissolve a polemical, replace it with an other polemical of the same strength or more. But, emotionally, the attempt to reverse this brain washing would require the new dimension of thought to be as depersonalized as the initial, otherwise, it feels like sabotage to their paradise. If paradise has a definition of genocide, it will have a strong bonding to that end. Kill regardless, love those that kill regardless, give birth to other children to kill regardless. Attempting to use logic to reorient them won't work. They are simply being reoriented into a society they have rejected.
I hate to tap the Saudi Arabia society as an example, but, it deals with this. They have a reasonably low recidivism. A legitimate reform has to be based in a similar method of Saudi Arabia.
Who was it that took former Gitmo detainees?
..."The United States (click here) is grateful to the government of Oman for its humanitarian gesture and willingness to support ongoing U.S. efforts to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility," the Defense Department said in a statement....
I would imagine being in Oman was a real reward after Gitmo. They could have families. They could have meaning to their lives by work. They could worship with people they understood. Their personal dimension hopefully became far more satisfying than extremism.
Australia didn't do a thing to these people. Nothing. There is absolutely no reason for an entire young family with five children to go to Syria forever. It is a polemical that takes over. Nothing else makes sense, at least to me. The thing about this is the child still misses her Grandmother. She is still holding onto Australia as a place where her grandmother loves her and her Grandmother continues to be content with her life. The men died and she turned to someone and some place where war is not a reality. I really think the child never let go of a life in Australia that made sense to her. It is a shame.
No one should be apologizing for the drone attacks. The Arab Coalition has to persist.
June 28, 2015
Eamonn Duff
Karen Nettleton (click here) was watching television at her Sydney home when a text arrived from her granddaughter in Syria.
"Hello Nana, how are you? My husband got hit by a drone yesterday and got killed. When I found out I was happy for him to get what he wanted and go to paradise but at the same time I was devastated because I loved him so much and I knew I was never gonna see him again in this life."
These were the extraordinary words sent eight days ago to Ms Nettleton from her eldest grandchild Zaynab, who at 13 years of age, had just become the widow of infamous Sydney jihadist Mohamed Elomar....
Age 13. She never knew what it was to be a child and a respected woman. The men are obsessed with the idea of a virgin. Children are not only soldiers, they are wives and some are mothers.
...Stranded in an Islamic State stronghold, Zaynab and her four younger siblings find themselves at the heart of a national political debate as to whether they – and their mother Tara – should be allowed to return to Australia and if so, whether criminal charges should be laid. The argument deepened last week when it emerged that Elomar was killed in a drone strike, allegedly alongside his best friend and Tara's own terrorist husband Khaled Sharrouf – who shifted the family to Syria....
A husband and wife from Australia bought into the idea of a caliphate and moved to Syria with their five children. The thirteen year old was married, is now a widow expecting her first child. This is nuts. What was the problem unemployment?
The FBI in the USA has run sting operations where they picked up those so inclined to believe they could actually find material to carry out a mass killing. What the heck is this already? This is crazy? Wackos from Afghanistan who boarded jets to carry out a final expression of hate against the USA is more understandable than this. This is like nothing I understand. A mother and father allows their child to be a bride and sex object to a man who believes the best way forward for people is to commit genocide at every turn. This is more than hate. This is depersonalized demand via polemical.
In order to dissolve a polemical, replace it with an other polemical of the same strength or more. But, emotionally, the attempt to reverse this brain washing would require the new dimension of thought to be as depersonalized as the initial, otherwise, it feels like sabotage to their paradise. If paradise has a definition of genocide, it will have a strong bonding to that end. Kill regardless, love those that kill regardless, give birth to other children to kill regardless. Attempting to use logic to reorient them won't work. They are simply being reoriented into a society they have rejected.
I hate to tap the Saudi Arabia society as an example, but, it deals with this. They have a reasonably low recidivism. A legitimate reform has to be based in a similar method of Saudi Arabia.
Who was it that took former Gitmo detainees?
..."The United States (click here) is grateful to the government of Oman for its humanitarian gesture and willingness to support ongoing U.S. efforts to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility," the Defense Department said in a statement....
I would imagine being in Oman was a real reward after Gitmo. They could have families. They could have meaning to their lives by work. They could worship with people they understood. Their personal dimension hopefully became far more satisfying than extremism.
Australia didn't do a thing to these people. Nothing. There is absolutely no reason for an entire young family with five children to go to Syria forever. It is a polemical that takes over. Nothing else makes sense, at least to me. The thing about this is the child still misses her Grandmother. She is still holding onto Australia as a place where her grandmother loves her and her Grandmother continues to be content with her life. The men died and she turned to someone and some place where war is not a reality. I really think the child never let go of a life in Australia that made sense to her. It is a shame.
No one should be apologizing for the drone attacks. The Arab Coalition has to persist.