But, there is a better way than tying up the time of FBI agents to prevent an attack within the airline industry. There is nothing wrong with informing people they are on the No Fly List and offering them an appeals process so they can be proven as wrongly accused. A grievance process if you will.
July 26, 2012
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New York -- A federal appeals court today unanimously ruled that the ACLU’s lawsuit challenging the government’s secretive No Fly List should go forward.
The national ACLU, along with its affiliates in Oregon, southern California, northern California and New Mexico, filed the lawsuit in June 2010, on behalf of 15 U.S. citizens and permanent residents, including four military veterans, who are on the No Fly List and banned from flying to or from the U.S. or over American airspace, causing great personal hardship. None of the ACLU’s clients have ever been told why they are on the No Fly List or given a reasonable opportunity to get off it....
If people want to do the USA harm, there are other ways to do it, ie: Timothy McVeigh. The sincerely militant will not wait to be cleared from a No Fly List, they will find other ways. So, to provide a path to recognition of wrongful accusation is a prudent idea.We also have to recognize that if there is a No Fly List, what does that say about the security for airlines that have been put into place since September 11, 2001. On one hand a No Fly List is using somewhat arbitrary discrimination to favor airline safety, yet, there are all kinds of screening procedures that is suppose to prevent any UNKNOWN criminals in our midst. Huh?
If the screening procedures are so air tight that there is no way a criminal can board an jet or aircraft with ingredients to explode the hull of a plane or cause a damaging fire to facilitate a crash or to enter the pilot cockpit to take over the plane, then why the No Fly List?
To say there is a growing list of people arbitrarily unable to spend money on airplane flight has to be somewhat a burden to the industry and not just the folks on the No Fly List.
No Fly List - Search for YOUR name and relish the moment you country provided for you. You pay for it after all. (click here)
In all honesty, this is one of those faux security measures that victimize Americans. Any FBI agent that does not understand that concept needs additional training.
There was a legitimate time for this. It was in the beginning when the country had no clue, but, it has outgrown its purpose. Seriously. There needs to be a way for the FBI to effectively assign more detailed assessment to whom they consider sincere dangers and those that only appear to have those qualities. There is nothing like being a victim from birth before an American has even developed a sincere understanding of the benevolence of their government.
The No Fly List has to be reviewed for its appropriate need. The agencies should never be so dedicated to a security process it cannot be assessed and reassessed for effectiveness. When that happens, the agencies will rely on a process that will become antiquated and useless. In that lies the next attack.
What sincerely needs to happen here is a complete reassessment of the limits placed on passengers to their carry-on, a scanning for every piece of luggage being up in the belly of the plane and a reassessment of electric device use. We know that mobile / cell phones can be used to detonate explosives. So, the BEST idea is for the agencies to come up with a solid methodology to protect the airline industry and get rid of this list. Suspects can be garnered by actions and movement toward a militant attack.
That can be improved, ie: New York City had a car bomb that didn't explode but smoldered. Then there is Yung W. Tang. His car laced with explosives was found by a thief in NYC after he was already in jail. And that seems like a 'given' to me. We actually had to wait for a car thief to covet what seemed like an abandoned car to actually attempt to steal it before the bomb was found. Like what? Why didn't they find it before?
So, there can be improvement in actually finding the bad guys. It is that reality, that brings me to the idea the No Fly List may very well be a waste of time of the agencies.
So, there can be improvement in actually finding the bad guys. It is that reality, that brings me to the idea the No Fly List may very well be a waste of time of the agencies.
A man already facing charges (click here) in a 2002 pipe bomb attack in New York was arrested in Connecticut after police found homemade explosives in his car, federal authorities said.
A Wallingford police officer on a routine patrol early Tuesday morning said he spotted Yung W. Tang napping in the parking lot of a KinderCare just off of Interstate 91. Authorities said Tang indicated he was driving from Boston to New York and had pulled off the highway to sleep.
Tang, 38, is a a citizen of China who lives in Greenwood Lake, N.Y....
