Tuesday, July 26, 2011

No excuse for killing. End of discussion.

These young people have a right to 'gather' to discuss anything they want.


They are sophisticated.


They make choices and they want to understand their political world and be its leaders.  There is nothing that should encumber that freedom.


Yes, this is a picture before the massacre.  A number of these wonder young people are now dead.


Becks statements are not original.  They were trumpeted in forums about the incident.  It is more important to understand the discourse and bring 'the tone' within a civilized range so the violence is not even thought about as a solution.  Much work to do to remove the polarization the Middle East brings to civilized dialogue.


There is dearly nothing anyone can do to facilitate peace between Hamas and Israel, the hope lies with Fatah's ability to unit the Palestinian people.  Recognizing Hamas is a form of 'solution finding' and it is common in nation's that find they are helpless to end hostilities between countries.


What I find more interesting than the 'idea' there is dialogue about Palestinians such as Hamas is the concern in the dialogue for the people and their ability to have a homeland.  Being 'tired' of Israel might be a reality, but, actually seeking to harm Israelis is not even in the dialogue.  Most 'peace-niks'' try to seek leverage of power over war.  That is an attempt to force peace not destruction.  Sad, the American Right Wing dialogue about this is so myopic in its insight.

…Beck said the camp "sounds a little like, (click here) you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever. Who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."

However, politically-oriented camps are being organized in several U.S. states by chapters of the "9/12 Project" -- an organization founded by Beck himself in 2009.

The Colorado 9/12 Project hosted a "Patriot Camp" for kids in grades 1-5 earlier this month, featuring programs on "our Constitution, the Founding Fathers, and the values and principles that are the cornerstones of our nation."…

Original dialogue about the Norwegian Youth Camp.  If one looks through the 'comments,' which are numerous, they primarily favor the 'healthy' dialogue of solution over any opinion tainted with negative opinion that Beck implies somehow the youth camp was asking for it.

...“I acknowledge (click title to entry - thank you) that economical boycott of Israel is a dramatic tool to use. But we are tired of Israel’s behavior. Large parts of the Word reacts towards Israel all the time, but Israel do not pay attention. Our advice to the Government of Norway is a signal, that we are tired of Israel” explains Pedersen....

To begin with that statement is not about hating Jewish people.  Currently, there are all kinds of boycotts to Gaza.  The recent experience of the Flotilla is an example.  So, Mr. Pedersen was expressing the wish for Israel to understand what they are doing to the people of Gaza which is comprised by their political content called Hamas.  There are a lot of 'emotions' when one begins discussing Hamas, but, to wish nations would place economic boycotts on Israel is not hating Israel, it is a desperate appeal for sanity.  Quite different than how Beck frames the topic.  It is why the USA has a State Department rather than Secretary of Descent and Propaganda, Secretary Rush Limbaugh and company.

Norway for both World Wars was neutral.  That means they did not fire upon the enemy or kill their soldiers or people.  Norway suffered during both those wars, but, would not enter them.  However, following WW II it was one of the founding members of NATO.  

Norway is also a democracy and constitutional monarchy.  I am sure the words of the Royalty means something.  It would be best to have the government and the monarchy address the nation in a meaningful way to allow open and free dialogue without entertaining the idea all cultures are important to a nation of peaceful and law abiding people.  They need to permit the Norwegian people to dialogue with their government to root out political extremism that embraces violence as an answer. Violence is not an answer and neither is hate.  The Norwegian government, monarchy and people are up to this challenge and they should secure their nation from such 'sub-cultures.'  It is vital to their peace, the peace of the region and global peace.