I can get into a discussion, but, basically Bush did nothing to assist peace within Iraq. Quite the contrary. He took an oppressed peoples and tried to oppress even further the most sensitive people within that society.
Al Qaeda was never an aspect to the Shi'ite militias, later known as the Mahdi Army. That terrorist element assisted the Sunnis in their attempts to retake the government.
Why?
Because the Iraqi Shi'ites were already alligned with the Iranian Shi'ites. They never needed the Sunnis. They never needed al Qaeda. A sovereign nation regardless the country is far more powerful than any al Qaeda unit. Oh, they make trouble but they can't destroy an entire sovereign authority.
Yet, alone Iran. Iran is prepared for such issues.
So, the entire assault against the Shi'ites and their cleric is a hideous attempt at creating a continuous war. The USA's military has caused widespread deaths and an escalation in the war. Now, all the sides of the war are armed and financed within their ability to control commerce within Iraq and between it's neighbors.
When Iraq breaks down into smaller provinces/nation states if you will, they will be able to enforce laws far easier than any American military can. The military is there for armed combat, not for police actions.
We don't belong in Iraq.
We never did.
Bush is either a complete idiot, which is possible, or a man intent on killing and oppressing for the sake of a bigger prize, possibly a war with Iran and possibly still the Caspian Sea.
At this point to bring Iraqi National Units out of stable areas of Iraq would be a fool-hearty effort for political leaders in the USA to save face with Neocons. It would reinflame the areas that have security now while risking instead of Baghdad being in turmoil the entire nation will exist in chaos. The stable areas of Iraq, secured by Iraqi National Forces should stay that way.
The chances of an Iraq National Military being formed to secure the most violent areas won't happen without pilots of helicopters and quite possibly small, limited jet capacities. I still believe Iraq needs to be held within the constraints of the allowable defense forces under the Oil for Food Program with such widespread instability in the primary capital, Baghdad. To the extent Iraq is allowed to protect it's borders they should have that capacity, but, never in the hands of people that would simply become another Saddam Hussein. To that end the nation of Iraq is far better maintained as individual provinces equally equipped to protect it's ethnicities that exhibit religious preference.
The central authority can be maintained to support legitimate income and international relations, but, will have to turn away from a Western alliance. Iraq may be grateful for being rid of Saddam but at the same time they are completely disillussioned with democracy and elections that have brought them no stability.
To venure into never, never land; I propose this possibility. Iran can easily supply the Iraqi Central/Unity Government with the same 'type' of military support as the USA if the region sees that as a necessary venue to stability. The USA is not the only military that can support the Iraqi Unity Government. In putting Iran's military in place of the USA military there would be more incentive for Shi'ite militias of Baghdad to join a unified force with training that is more agreeable to that infantry. At least Iran and Iraq would have a matched set of soldier and the chance of any instability would be eliminated. I am confident under that leadership the Sunnis would be threatened and set up the violence within the country. But, it would eliminate the sectarian violence and the confrontation would simply be to bring the Sunni insurgency and al Qaeda under control. The risk, of course, is a wide spread attack on the Sunnis.
That is a misnomer to think an Iranian guided military would be reliable in their mission, but, to realize Iraq is 60% Shi'ite and the north completely Kurd, the idea has some merit. The Kurds could be supported by a smaller USA military detachment to protect them in any transition and that is where PIVOTAL balance comes into play. The USA would be in the region under a stable Kurdish democracy while Iran stabilized the Shi'ite military deployement and expanded it through recruitment of militias into the Unity Authority.
In simple terms. The Iranians would hopefully carry a greater influence in the military organization of Iraq while the USA stood by in Kurdistan to protect any advancement by any military into the area. It would then be upto the Sunnis to lay down their arms and accept the Unity Authority of Iraq. If such a plan is not tried and should it fail then Iraq won't exist anymore and there will be three sovereign authorities, leaving Al Albar to the Sunnis. The USA would have a presence in Kurdistan for as long as needed and perhaps what would return would be no fly zones.
None of this is ideal, but, do pose workable solutions leading to stability and not an escalation of war.
Saturday, November 25, 2006
THESE ARE COMMENTS made about CNN Progress Report regarding Iraq. It is plan to see that the Sunnis are employing the services of al Qaeda to defeat the Shi'ite majority government. It wasn't the Shi'ites idea to fight the American occupation in the beginning. They were just as pleased as the Kurds to be rid of Saddam.
The opening segment was by Nic Robertson (click on) who ventured out into Iraq to find the Insurgents. The people the USA call insurgents call themselves resistance fighters. That is how I will refer to them here. They are very sane people who have contemplated this resistance and practiced for it since before the invasion.
They have names such as Abu Omar and Abu Mohammad. These names were alias. The actual Arabic understanding of the name of "Abu" is to indictate it is a false identity. Abu also means father. The General of these fighters showed pictures of himself as an officer in the Iraqi Army before the removal of Saddam from leadership in Iraq. According to the report by Nic, which is more accurate than anyone else I know at CNN besides perhaps Christiana Amanpour these men are in complete control of their situation. They can turn it on or off like a faucet. General Abu Omar was in charge of 20% of the resistance fighters but stated he influenced 80%. He stated they all have plans of stopping but they just aren't sure exactly when they will stop.
The good General stated he was aware of the presence of al Qaeda and the forces there that operated in Baghdad but they only came to support the Iraqi resistance and would stay to the end of the struggle. Got that? Al Qaeda is not interested in undermining the Islamic people of Iraq but only the Americans and their coalition, hence, Blair is again right in that the policies of Iraq are playing out in London through al Qaeda's support to the resistance efforts.
The opening segment was by Nic Robertson (click on) who ventured out into Iraq to find the Insurgents. The people the USA call insurgents call themselves resistance fighters. That is how I will refer to them here. They are very sane people who have contemplated this resistance and practiced for it since before the invasion.
They have names such as Abu Omar and Abu Mohammad. These names were alias. The actual Arabic understanding of the name of "Abu" is to indictate it is a false identity. Abu also means father. The General of these fighters showed pictures of himself as an officer in the Iraqi Army before the removal of Saddam from leadership in Iraq. According to the report by Nic, which is more accurate than anyone else I know at CNN besides perhaps Christiana Amanpour these men are in complete control of their situation. They can turn it on or off like a faucet. General Abu Omar was in charge of 20% of the resistance fighters but stated he influenced 80%. He stated they all have plans of stopping but they just aren't sure exactly when they will stop.
The good General stated he was aware of the presence of al Qaeda and the forces there that operated in Baghdad but they only came to support the Iraqi resistance and would stay to the end of the struggle. Got that? Al Qaeda is not interested in undermining the Islamic people of Iraq but only the Americans and their coalition, hence, Blair is again right in that the policies of Iraq are playing out in London through al Qaeda's support to the resistance efforts.
Shi'ite Mourners
Clerics lay blame for Iraq's strife on U.S. mistakes
By Solomon Moore, Times Staff Writer
6:48 PM PST, November 25, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Shiite and Sunni clerics, among the last vestige of authority in a country rapidly losing faith in politicians, charged Saturday that Iraq's plight was the result of U.S. mistakes and pleaded with their faithful to stem the bloodshed that followed a devastating attack on a mainly Shiite Baghdad slum.In interviews Saturday and recent sermons, clerics articulated one message that appears to be gaining traction on both sides of Iraq's civil war: The U.S. presence is making matters worse, and the Americans should go home.
Iraq insurgency now financially self-sustaining-NYT
NEW YORK, Nov 25 (Reuters) - The Iraq insurgency has become financially self-sustaining, raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, corrupt charities and other crimes, The New York Times reported in Sunday editions.
According to a classified United States government report, a copy of which was obtained by the newspaper, groups responsible for many of the insurgent and terrorist attacks are raising an estimated $70 million to $200 million a year from illegal activities.
Some $25 million to $100 million of the total comes from oil smuggling and other criminal activity involving the state-owned oil industry aided by "corrupt and complicit" Iraqi officials, the Times said, citing the report.
As much as $36 million a year comes from ransoms paid over hundreds of kidnappings. Unnamed foreign governments -- identified in the past by senior U.S. officials as including France and Italy -- paid kidnappers $30 million in ransom last year alone, the report said.
The Times also quoted the report as saying: "If recent revenue and expense estimates are correct terrorist and insurgent groups in Iraq may have surplus funds with which to support other terrorist organizations outside of Iraq."
The report, completed in June, was provided to the newspaper by U.S. officials in Iraq who told the Times they had done so in hopes that the findings could improve U.S. understanding of the challenges faced in Iraq.
IN A RECENT conversation with a Marine that had returned from Iraq in October, I learned there are at every border/road check point, men that supervise the trucks that cross the border. Everyone knows it exists and yet nothing is or can be done about it. The road supervisor asks about $200 (US) for a toll. In exchange for that toll the truck driver can move his vehicle to the front of the line. The supervisor then arranges for that truck to be allowed to cross first. There is a lot of money and no way to stop it. After paying all those funds, the truck drivers have a vested interest in the border crossing and their place in line.
The Marine stated one line was 10 miles long and every truck had already paid a toll. The Marine was patrolling along the Syrian border. The USA military intervenes when an argument breaks out to suppress the violence. At that point it doesn't matter if a truck driver has waited 3 days to cross the border without paying an illegal toll, if he started the assault then he is arrested.
2 American soldiers die in Iraq, 3 wounded
BAGHDAD, Iraq: A U.S. soldier was killed and three others were wounded when a roadside bomb exploded near their vehicle north of Baghdad, the military said Wednesday. Another soldier died of non-hostile injuries in the same area.
The bomb exploded on Tuesday as the four soldiers were involved in a military operation in Salahuddin province, where Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit is located, the U.S. command said. The three wounded men were transported to coalition medical treatment facilities.
The four Task Force Lightning service members were assigned to the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division.
Another soldier with the same division died Tuesday of non-combat injuries in Salahuddin province, the military said.
The names of the soldiers were withheld pending notification of their relatives.
The two deaths raised to at least 2,867 the number of U.S. servicemen who have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
So far this month in Iraq, 49 American service members have been killed or died.
Al-Sistani in Britain
Iraq
Published: 06-Aug-2004
By: Lindsay Taylor
Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric, and its most moderate influential voice, has arrived in Britain for treatment for a heart condition.
But the timing of Grand Ayatollah Ali-al Sistani's departure from Iraq could hardly be worse.
Fierce clashes between US troops and radical Shi'ite militia continued for a second day in the holy city of Najaf, where Sistani had brokered a ceasefire, and spread from Sadr City in Baghdad to the Shoula neighbourhood.
Fighting also broke out in Ramadi, in the Sunni triangle.
In the south, British and Italian troops fought militia in Basra, Amara and Nassiriya.
The US military claims up to 300 militiamen have so far been killed in the fighting. So is Iraq heading for a new radical Shi'ite uprising? Lindsay Taylor reports.
Published: 06-Aug-2004
By: Lindsay Taylor
Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric, and its most moderate influential voice, has arrived in Britain for treatment for a heart condition.
But the timing of Grand Ayatollah Ali-al Sistani's departure from Iraq could hardly be worse.
Fierce clashes between US troops and radical Shi'ite militia continued for a second day in the holy city of Najaf, where Sistani had brokered a ceasefire, and spread from Sadr City in Baghdad to the Shoula neighbourhood.
Fighting also broke out in Ramadi, in the Sunni triangle.
In the south, British and Italian troops fought militia in Basra, Amara and Nassiriya.
The US military claims up to 300 militiamen have so far been killed in the fighting. So is Iraq heading for a new radical Shi'ite uprising? Lindsay Taylor reports.
Iraqi Shiites wait to enter the holy city of Najaf yesterday. Thousands responded to an influential religious leader's call for a peace march, and rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's fighters opened the city's shrine after a three-week standoff.
Iraqi government, Al-Sadr OK peace deal
(Agencies)
Updated: 2004-08-27 06:55
Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, made a dramatic return to Najaf on Thursday and swiftly won agreement from a rebel cleric and the government to end three weeks of fighting between his militia and U.S.-Iraqi forces.
The renegade Muqtada al-Sadr accepted the proposal in a face-to-face meeting Thursday night with the 75-year-old al-Sistani, Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric. Hours afterward, the government also agreed to the deal.
Meanwhile, an Arab television station said Friday it received a video showing the killing of Italian journalist Enzo Baldoni. Baldoni was kidnapped by militants who threatened to execute him if Italy did not withdraw troops from Iraq.
Al-Sistani returned to Iraq after heart treatment in London to intervene for the first time in the bloody conflict, drawing thousands of followers who marched on Najaf and massed on its outskirts.
In the 24 hours before al-Sistani entered the holy city, more than 90 Iraqis were killed in fighting — including 27 killed when mortars barraged a mosque in neighboring Kufa, where thousands had gathered to march into Najaf in support of al-Sistani's mission.
Fighting eased after al-Sistani arrived, when the U.S. military and the Iraqi government called a 24-hour ceasefire.
The acceptance by the young, firebrand preacher al-Sadr — whose militia has been battling U.S. and Iraqi forces since Aug. 5 — doesn't necessarily mean an end to the crisis. He has agreed to peace proposals before, and they have quickly fallen apart.
When does it stop for these people? When do the convenient attacks on Shi'ites stop? Never? Because of Iran? And the deposed Shah?
"Al Sadr's Supporters Pray" More than 10 thousand Iraqis, who are supporters of Muktada Al-Sadr, pray as they protest the closing of his newspaper, Al-Hawza, in front of the Convention Center in Baghdad, Iraq, on Friday, April 2, 2004.
In Iraq, a 'perfect storm' - A perfect storm for whom?
BAGHDAD – The US closure of an irregularly published newspaper with just 5,000 readers seemed a tiny moment in the struggle for stability in Iraq. But the March 28 move to close Al Hawza, controlled by militant Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, now looks like the edge of a violent storm.
...Similarly, the US coalition hardly anticipated that the closure of just one of 100-plus newspapers in Baghdad would form the genesis of a Shiite revolt in half a dozen cities around Iraq.
Oh, I think Bush/Cheney and Bremer knew exactly how to insite riots and create a Civil War that only Iran could come to the rescue to end. I think they knew exactly what they were doing when they closed an innocuous newsprint published by a son of a powerful former Ayatollah and mentored by the one Grand Ayatollah with the most influence among the Shia. I believe Bush and Cheney targeted Sadr for exactly the effect that would follow.
Pro-Sadr weekly newspaper reopens in Iraq
Jonathan Steele in Baghdad
Monday July 19, 2004The Guardian
An Iraqi newspaper closed in March by the US occupation authorities, sparking protests and an armed uprising that led to hundreds of deaths, has reopened, it emerged yesterday.
The next edition of the weekly, which supports the radical Shia Muslim cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, could appear within days.
"We were waiting for instructions from Najaf [Mr Sadr's headquarters] and now we will come out again next week," Ali Yasseri, the editor of al-Hawza, told the Guardian last night.
The occupation authorities closed the paper on March 28 for 60 days, saying it had violated regulations banning incitement to violence.
But it was not clear that the paper's content in its final issue was any more radically critical of the occupation than earlier issues, against which the authorities had taken no action.
The closure seemed intended to reduce Mr Sadr's influence. At the same time the Americans published an arrest warrant for the cleric for alleged involvement in murder.
Both moves led to street demonstrations by hundreds of Shia Muslims in central Baghdad. This in turn led to heightened US military patrols in Sadr city, the huge district full of jobless young people where Mr Sadr counts most of his followers.
Armed clashes erupted, which led to a full-fledged uprising that lasted for two months and spread to Najaf, Kerbala, Kut and other southern cities.
Hundreds died but the cleric's support went up in every public opinion poll, as he was seen as a champion of independence.
The prime minister, Ayad Allawi, put out a statement yesterday announcing the paper's reappearance, indicating this was a mark of his respect for press freedom.
Bombing Shatters Mosque In Iraq
SAMARRA, Iraq - Insurgents detonated bombs inside one of Iraq's holiest Shiite shrines (click on) Wednesday, destroying its golden dome and triggering more than 60 reprisal attacks on Sunni mosques. The president warned that extremists were pushing the country toward civil war, as many Shiites lashed out at the United States as partly to blame.
As the gold dome of the 1,200-year-old Askariya shrine lay in ruins, leaders on both sides called for calm: But the string of back-and-forth attacks seemed to push the country closer to all-out civil war than at any point in the three years since the U.S.-led overthrow ofSaddam Hussein.
"We are facing a major conspiracy that is targeting Iraq's unity," said President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd. "We should all stand hand in hand to prevent the danger of a civil war."
Basically, there is a huge contradiction in Bush's War in Iraq
Bush stated: The enemy was not al Qaeda alone, but, anyone who harbored al Qaeda and gave aid and comfort to the enemy.
That is the case with the Shi'ites?
No.
It is the case with the Sunnis.
Mr. Bush's premise to attack randomly ANY entity in Iraq is "W"rong.
Al-Sadr loyalists take over Iraqi television station
By Hannah Allam and Mohamed al Dulaimy
McClatchy Newspapers
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms.
The two-hour broadcast from a community gathering in the heart of the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City included three members of al-Sadr's parliamentary bloc, who took questions from outraged residents demanding revenge for a series of car bombings that killed some 200 people Thursday.
With Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki relegated to the sidelines, brazen Sunni-Shiite attacks continue unchecked despite a 24-hour curfew over Baghdad. Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia now controls wide swaths of the capital, his politicians are the backbone of the Cabinet, and his followers deeply entrenched in the Iraqi security forces. Sectarian violence has spun so rapidly out of control since the Sadr City blasts, however, that it's not clear whether even al-Sadr has the authority - or the will - to stop the cycle of bloodshed.
"This is live and, God willing, everyone will hear me: We are not interested in sidewalks, water services or anything else. We want safety," an unidentified Sadr City resident said as the televised crowd cheered. "We want the officials. They say there is no sectarian war. No, it is sectarian war, and that's the truth."
That is the case with the Shi'ites?
No.
It is the case with the Sunnis.
Mr. Bush's premise to attack randomly ANY entity in Iraq is "W"rong.
Al-Sadr loyalists take over Iraqi television station
By Hannah Allam and Mohamed al Dulaimy
McClatchy Newspapers
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms.
The two-hour broadcast from a community gathering in the heart of the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City included three members of al-Sadr's parliamentary bloc, who took questions from outraged residents demanding revenge for a series of car bombings that killed some 200 people Thursday.
With Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki relegated to the sidelines, brazen Sunni-Shiite attacks continue unchecked despite a 24-hour curfew over Baghdad. Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia now controls wide swaths of the capital, his politicians are the backbone of the Cabinet, and his followers deeply entrenched in the Iraqi security forces. Sectarian violence has spun so rapidly out of control since the Sadr City blasts, however, that it's not clear whether even al-Sadr has the authority - or the will - to stop the cycle of bloodshed.
"This is live and, God willing, everyone will hear me: We are not interested in sidewalks, water services or anything else. We want safety," an unidentified Sadr City resident said as the televised crowd cheered. "We want the officials. They say there is no sectarian war. No, it is sectarian war, and that's the truth."
A health ministry. The fourth attack that week. This time sustained ...
... with ministry guards firing back at the Sunni attackers for two hours. Two hours of attack before an American gunship arrived and Iraqi National units. Two hours of gun fire and under attack at a Health Ministry.
From the above link:
Young Shiite nationalist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr gave a sermon in Kufa on Friday before a congregation of thousands in which he demanded [Ar.] that Sunni cleric Harith al-Dhari issue fatwas to the following effect:
1. Sunnis must avoid killing Shiites
2. Sunnis must not join al-Qaeda
3. Sunnis must rebuild the Askariyah Shrine at Samarra, destroyed last February. It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
It is dedicated to the Twelfth Imam of the Shiites.
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Do they ever get tired of mourning? When a people becomes demoralized enough, is there nothing else but 'an end.'
Study estimates 600,000 Iraqis dead by violence
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
More than 600,000 Iraqis have died by violence since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to a study released Wednesday by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.
The figure is based on surveys of households throughout most of the country. It vastly exceeds estimates cited by the Iraqi government, the United Nations, aid and anti-war groups, and President Bush.
The new estimate was immediately challenged by the Pentagon. Lt. Col. Mark Bellesteros, a Pentagon spokesman, said the Iraqi government "would be in a better position ... to provide more accurate information on deaths in Iraq."
Frederick Jones, a spokesman for the National Security Council said "many experts" found that a 2004 study by the same group "wildly inflated the findings." That study said the war had caused 100,000 Iraqi deaths.
"This study appears to be equally flawed," he said. The new study said the deaths have resulted from coalition military activity, crime and religious violence.
By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY
More than 600,000 Iraqis have died by violence since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to a study released Wednesday by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.
The figure is based on surveys of households throughout most of the country. It vastly exceeds estimates cited by the Iraqi government, the United Nations, aid and anti-war groups, and President Bush.
The new estimate was immediately challenged by the Pentagon. Lt. Col. Mark Bellesteros, a Pentagon spokesman, said the Iraqi government "would be in a better position ... to provide more accurate information on deaths in Iraq."
Frederick Jones, a spokesman for the National Security Council said "many experts" found that a 2004 study by the same group "wildly inflated the findings." That study said the war had caused 100,000 Iraqi deaths.
"This study appears to be equally flawed," he said. The new study said the deaths have resulted from coalition military activity, crime and religious violence.
My Life is a Succession of People Saying Goodbye by Morrissey
My life is an Endless succession
Of people saying goodbye
My life is An endless succession
Of people saying goodbye
And what's left for me?
What's left for me?
At one time
The future it stretched out before me
But now it stretches behind me.
And all of the best things in life
Are behind glass
Money, jewelry and flesh
And what's left for me?
What's left for me?
Of people saying goodbye
My life is An endless succession
Of people saying goodbye
And what's left for me?
What's left for me?
At one time
The future it stretched out before me
But now it stretches behind me.
And all of the best things in life
Are behind glass
Money, jewelry and flesh
And what's left for me?
What's left for me?
What's the best topic for tonight?
Thanksgiving. Hm?
Maybe I should take about turkeys and the two pardoned birds with the hideous names of Flyer and Fryer?
See, the 'thing' that bothers me is that the names themselves are an indiction of destination. It is a 'wish' sorta. Normally the pardoned turkeys have gone to the Fryer Ranch. Let's see if I can find a link. Didn't find a link to the ranch but here are the results.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/holiday/thanksgiving/2006/
The 'Flyer' is to indictate the new place for these birds in California and the 'Fryer' was the old destination for pardoned turkey's in Virginia. It's commericalized and I don't feel there were any reflection of Thanksgiving at all. I am not sure the voting mechanisms were fair either.
So, that didn't take any in depth look see....So, maybe I should talk about the spy that swallowed radiation ions?
I don't know that will take much to explain either. One can always say the man was at the end of his rope and did it to himself. However, those surrounding him will consider it nonsense and state Russia is simply covering up a murder. See the radiation used is common place in nature. Although some say in Britain in order to have it available for a poison as was noted in the case of the former spy, it needed sophistated processing. The questions is did Alexander V. Litvinenko have the knowledge to 'set up a plot' to embarrass Putin or did any of his ? friends ?
Police trace last steps of poisoned former KGB spy
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=4795643
The problem is that this is not an isolated incident. There have been some controversial Russians that have met with death within the span of a few months and it's getting to be an international concern. The people involved, however, were highly critical of Russia, BUT, they were also involved with some very dangerous people, namely Chechens. The Chechens would not at all mind putting President Putin to shame and make a case for at the very least defaming him with an ambition to see him charged with murder.
I don't believe any plot against these people go as high as President Putin and I can probably make a fairly good case to look closely at the Chechen aspect of this. However, how then is the poisoning of Yushchenko? The odd aspect to this is the man Yushchenko opposed has been returned to the position of Prime Minister.
Russia's Putin to visit Ukraine next month amid efforts to mend ties
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/23/europe/EU_GEN_Ukraine_Russia.php
This subject has some merit and I sincerely want to explore the Chechen aspect of it which I believe has conveniently been set aside. Russia is actually making 'in roads' to settlements with Chechnya:
Constitutional court starts work in Chechnya
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20061111/55543116.html
..."The constitutional court is facing a large amount of work to bring local laws and regulations in line with the Constitution of the Russian Federation," Abdurakhmanov said.
Sort of. At any rate while the free world feels different about the subject of Chechnya:
The reach of Russia is amazing, not to mention frightening
Publication time: 25 November 2006, 21:19
The poisoning of former KGB official Alexander Litvinenko probably is not "directly"linked to the G.R.U. or F.S.B. if anything that I have heard or seen is anything to go by. After all, such direct and traceable action is downright stupid.No, like the lady journalist who was gunned down on her way back from the grocery store, it was some disgruntled individual acting alone. There seem to be a lot of these disgruntled individuals acting alone, mind you, in the style of some 'Lee Harvey Oswald' fairytale ( of course the Mafia did not want to get rid of J.F.K. ... after all, he was only investigating them and trying to put them out of business ).
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2006/11/25/6542.shtml
Russian Puppets Arrest Foreign Journalists in Chechnya
Publication time: 25 November 2006, 17:58
An Austrian TV journalist, her cameraman and a sound technician were briefly detained Friday while filming in the restive southern Russia region of Chechnya, their station said.
State broadcaster ORF said its longtime Moscow correspondent, Susanne Scholl, and her two assistants were arrested and held by puppet police before they were released a few hours later. The station did not say whether the Chechen puppets gave a reason for the detentions or whether some foreigners' property was stolen, as usual, by Russian puppets.
ORF said the crew's video was seized, and general manager Alexander Wrabetz said the station would lodge a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Vienna.
Austria's Foreign Ministry issued a verbal protest earlier Friday, officials said.
THERE IS A COMMON thread other than Russia in all these 'incidents' the world community would like to pin on President Putin. I don't think it is him at play here. I do believe there are issues surrounding Russia and it's embarrassment, however, a more prudent view might be better to first scutinize terrorists as the culprits and then look to sovereign nations. I personally would want to weed out the 'lone' wolves who could be lurking about. Sovereign nations aren't going anywhere.
But, I think I'll save this for another day....
Maybe I should take about turkeys and the two pardoned birds with the hideous names of Flyer and Fryer?
See, the 'thing' that bothers me is that the names themselves are an indiction of destination. It is a 'wish' sorta. Normally the pardoned turkeys have gone to the Fryer Ranch. Let's see if I can find a link. Didn't find a link to the ranch but here are the results.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/holiday/thanksgiving/2006/
The 'Flyer' is to indictate the new place for these birds in California and the 'Fryer' was the old destination for pardoned turkey's in Virginia. It's commericalized and I don't feel there were any reflection of Thanksgiving at all. I am not sure the voting mechanisms were fair either.
So, that didn't take any in depth look see....So, maybe I should talk about the spy that swallowed radiation ions?
I don't know that will take much to explain either. One can always say the man was at the end of his rope and did it to himself. However, those surrounding him will consider it nonsense and state Russia is simply covering up a murder. See the radiation used is common place in nature. Although some say in Britain in order to have it available for a poison as was noted in the case of the former spy, it needed sophistated processing. The questions is did Alexander V. Litvinenko have the knowledge to 'set up a plot' to embarrass Putin or did any of his ? friends ?
Police trace last steps of poisoned former KGB spy
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=4795643
The problem is that this is not an isolated incident. There have been some controversial Russians that have met with death within the span of a few months and it's getting to be an international concern. The people involved, however, were highly critical of Russia, BUT, they were also involved with some very dangerous people, namely Chechens. The Chechens would not at all mind putting President Putin to shame and make a case for at the very least defaming him with an ambition to see him charged with murder.
I don't believe any plot against these people go as high as President Putin and I can probably make a fairly good case to look closely at the Chechen aspect of this. However, how then is the poisoning of Yushchenko? The odd aspect to this is the man Yushchenko opposed has been returned to the position of Prime Minister.
Russia's Putin to visit Ukraine next month amid efforts to mend ties
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/23/europe/EU_GEN_Ukraine_Russia.php
This subject has some merit and I sincerely want to explore the Chechen aspect of it which I believe has conveniently been set aside. Russia is actually making 'in roads' to settlements with Chechnya:
Constitutional court starts work in Chechnya
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20061111/55543116.html
..."The constitutional court is facing a large amount of work to bring local laws and regulations in line with the Constitution of the Russian Federation," Abdurakhmanov said.
Sort of. At any rate while the free world feels different about the subject of Chechnya:
The reach of Russia is amazing, not to mention frightening
Publication time: 25 November 2006, 21:19
The poisoning of former KGB official Alexander Litvinenko probably is not "directly"linked to the G.R.U. or F.S.B. if anything that I have heard or seen is anything to go by. After all, such direct and traceable action is downright stupid.No, like the lady journalist who was gunned down on her way back from the grocery store, it was some disgruntled individual acting alone. There seem to be a lot of these disgruntled individuals acting alone, mind you, in the style of some 'Lee Harvey Oswald' fairytale ( of course the Mafia did not want to get rid of J.F.K. ... after all, he was only investigating them and trying to put them out of business ).
http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2006/11/25/6542.shtml
Russian Puppets Arrest Foreign Journalists in Chechnya
Publication time: 25 November 2006, 17:58
An Austrian TV journalist, her cameraman and a sound technician were briefly detained Friday while filming in the restive southern Russia region of Chechnya, their station said.
State broadcaster ORF said its longtime Moscow correspondent, Susanne Scholl, and her two assistants were arrested and held by puppet police before they were released a few hours later. The station did not say whether the Chechen puppets gave a reason for the detentions or whether some foreigners' property was stolen, as usual, by Russian puppets.
ORF said the crew's video was seized, and general manager Alexander Wrabetz said the station would lodge a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Vienna.
Austria's Foreign Ministry issued a verbal protest earlier Friday, officials said.
THERE IS A COMMON thread other than Russia in all these 'incidents' the world community would like to pin on President Putin. I don't think it is him at play here. I do believe there are issues surrounding Russia and it's embarrassment, however, a more prudent view might be better to first scutinize terrorists as the culprits and then look to sovereign nations. I personally would want to weed out the 'lone' wolves who could be lurking about. Sovereign nations aren't going anywhere.
But, I think I'll save this for another day....
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