Governor Bobby Jindal stated the RFRA laws proposed does not ban the LGBT community from any participation of society's everday activities.
BUT. And it is a huge but.
The LGBT community cannot participate in any marriage in any restaurant or organization's hall if they are denied services because of religious devotion.
So, Bobby Jindal states, the religious discrimination can be practiced underground. If Bennigans has a hall for rent for special occasions it can deny the same members of the LGBT community it willing serves in their restaurant. It is unconstitutional as the RFRA laws are.
When these young ladies decide to marry they are not going to find a hall that will serve them or a bakery or a florist because they are lesbians. Tell me where the rights of these young women change because they decide to get married?
No law can create an underground that will breed voids of services for LGBT Americans? Where in the USA Constitution is there the right of people to deny services to the LGBT Community. I want to know where exactly the US Constitution removes the rights from these young women?
October 30, 2013
By Lucy Hallowell
We told you about (click here) Br{ache the Silence (BTS) last month. The organization is working to end discrimination and homophobia in women’s sports and has just put out its first video in its Tour of Champions. The Tour’s purpose is to use NCAA Champion teams and individuals to send the message that LGBTQ athletes are welcome in women’s sports at its highest levels.
The first stop on the tour is Storrs, Connecticut home to the University of Connecticut Women’s Basketball Team. The Huskies won the NCAA Championship a year ago and were voted number one in the coaches poll yesterday. The team has won eight national championships and has been at the top of the sport for more than a decade. When the top team in the country makes a video that says not only are gay players welcome here, but discrimination is absolutely not, it’s a message that filters down through other programs....
The discrimination is not based in the Freedom of Religion Right in the First Amendment. There is no justification in the First Amendment for discrimination of any American based in religion.
The First Amendment of the USA Constitution PROVIDES a SPACE for religious practice in the country. It does not provide a place of the practice of religion in an underground framework in any law.
Is an organization withholding services to the LGBT community, allowed to post signs openly that it does not serve the LGBT patrons in private party services? What does that look like? Can a business owned by a Christian be allowed to post a sign that states we only serve the LGBT community in the back of the restaurant? Is that same organization or business that refuses the LGBT certain services allowed to post a sign stating they refuse to allow any LGBT person from using the public restroom open to heterosexuals. They discriminate between the two. Those discriminating in certain services, where do their services stop? Serving food. The LGBT Community is allowed to go into businesses and organizations' building, but, they can be refused services.
Who decides what services are provided to them?
Can a florist have a defined limited menu of choices for anyone LGBT and make it so hideous no one would want that arrangement, hence, they are not welcome. This is the same exact basis of the poll tax. By law everyone can vote, but, certain ethnicities have to pass tests or pay for a voter registration card so expensive no one can afford it.
There is always a way to defeat laws without really breaking the law.
There can be no special status for public services or services by private industry that serves the public. If A minister states he or she only provides services to those of the same faith he is legitimate, but, he is legitimate anyway. He is not obligated to perform marriages to anyone outside of his faith. That already exists.
Just because the butcher, the baker and the candle stick maker is Christian, there is no special status. The business cannot refuse services simply because a person is not of their faith. If at Easter all he provides for purchase is Hot Cross Buns, that is legitimate, but, that is legitimate anyway. If a baker wants to provide a service to Christians and limits the choice from a religious definition, it is allowed so long as the entire community can have access unless the service is provided in a different space exclusively refusing LGBT individuals.
That is very true of the Jewish faith when they are shopping for 'correct' menus for their family. Walk into any public grocer and find products or a section that is Kosher. That is what most Americans expect. They expect to find choices based in their faith because that is good business. If a grocer wants to make profits, it will occur because the community has it's needs met.
This idea there can be a separate but equal place for the public in any establishment is discrimination and assaults the individual's identity. It is an attack against a person that has no control over their genetic identity.
The legislation is illegitimate for all these reasons and more. Can LGBT be treated in a Christian hospital?
How does anyone decide what child is gay or straight? Does a day care center managed by a Christian owner have the right to determine if a child is gay and prohibit that child from services reserved for 'normal' children? If that owner is required to provide services to the public will that mean the children of gay parents be placed in a certain room with different playground time than children of straight parents? Where does the special status stop? Who determines the rules?
The RFRA laws state services have to be provided to the LGBT community, EXCEPT, for special circumstances. Who defines what those special services are and how are they administered?
Providing certain rights but not all rights to the LGBT Community is toxic to our society. It will hurt people if it doesn't already.
What qualifications does it take to fly in a jet? Certain jets are set aside for the LGBT Community? Is Amtrak exempt from any rules and must provide accommodations for the entire public or is a Christian noting the RFRA law which states they have special status and cannot sit in the same train car as any LGBT person to be accommodated?
RFRA rules are nighmares and belong nowhere in American legislation that passes into law.
BUT. And it is a huge but.
The LGBT community cannot participate in any marriage in any restaurant or organization's hall if they are denied services because of religious devotion.
So, Bobby Jindal states, the religious discrimination can be practiced underground. If Bennigans has a hall for rent for special occasions it can deny the same members of the LGBT community it willing serves in their restaurant. It is unconstitutional as the RFRA laws are.
When these young ladies decide to marry they are not going to find a hall that will serve them or a bakery or a florist because they are lesbians. Tell me where the rights of these young women change because they decide to get married?
No law can create an underground that will breed voids of services for LGBT Americans? Where in the USA Constitution is there the right of people to deny services to the LGBT Community. I want to know where exactly the US Constitution removes the rights from these young women?
October 30, 2013By Lucy Hallowell
We told you about (click here) Br{ache the Silence (BTS) last month. The organization is working to end discrimination and homophobia in women’s sports and has just put out its first video in its Tour of Champions. The Tour’s purpose is to use NCAA Champion teams and individuals to send the message that LGBTQ athletes are welcome in women’s sports at its highest levels.
The first stop on the tour is Storrs, Connecticut home to the University of Connecticut Women’s Basketball Team. The Huskies won the NCAA Championship a year ago and were voted number one in the coaches poll yesterday. The team has won eight national championships and has been at the top of the sport for more than a decade. When the top team in the country makes a video that says not only are gay players welcome here, but discrimination is absolutely not, it’s a message that filters down through other programs....
The discrimination is not based in the Freedom of Religion Right in the First Amendment. There is no justification in the First Amendment for discrimination of any American based in religion.
The First Amendment of the USA Constitution PROVIDES a SPACE for religious practice in the country. It does not provide a place of the practice of religion in an underground framework in any law.
Is an organization withholding services to the LGBT community, allowed to post signs openly that it does not serve the LGBT patrons in private party services? What does that look like? Can a business owned by a Christian be allowed to post a sign that states we only serve the LGBT community in the back of the restaurant? Is that same organization or business that refuses the LGBT certain services allowed to post a sign stating they refuse to allow any LGBT person from using the public restroom open to heterosexuals. They discriminate between the two. Those discriminating in certain services, where do their services stop? Serving food. The LGBT Community is allowed to go into businesses and organizations' building, but, they can be refused services.
Who decides what services are provided to them?
Can a florist have a defined limited menu of choices for anyone LGBT and make it so hideous no one would want that arrangement, hence, they are not welcome. This is the same exact basis of the poll tax. By law everyone can vote, but, certain ethnicities have to pass tests or pay for a voter registration card so expensive no one can afford it.
There is always a way to defeat laws without really breaking the law.
There can be no special status for public services or services by private industry that serves the public. If A minister states he or she only provides services to those of the same faith he is legitimate, but, he is legitimate anyway. He is not obligated to perform marriages to anyone outside of his faith. That already exists.
Just because the butcher, the baker and the candle stick maker is Christian, there is no special status. The business cannot refuse services simply because a person is not of their faith. If at Easter all he provides for purchase is Hot Cross Buns, that is legitimate, but, that is legitimate anyway. If a baker wants to provide a service to Christians and limits the choice from a religious definition, it is allowed so long as the entire community can have access unless the service is provided in a different space exclusively refusing LGBT individuals.
That is very true of the Jewish faith when they are shopping for 'correct' menus for their family. Walk into any public grocer and find products or a section that is Kosher. That is what most Americans expect. They expect to find choices based in their faith because that is good business. If a grocer wants to make profits, it will occur because the community has it's needs met.
This idea there can be a separate but equal place for the public in any establishment is discrimination and assaults the individual's identity. It is an attack against a person that has no control over their genetic identity.
The legislation is illegitimate for all these reasons and more. Can LGBT be treated in a Christian hospital?
How does anyone decide what child is gay or straight? Does a day care center managed by a Christian owner have the right to determine if a child is gay and prohibit that child from services reserved for 'normal' children? If that owner is required to provide services to the public will that mean the children of gay parents be placed in a certain room with different playground time than children of straight parents? Where does the special status stop? Who determines the rules?
The RFRA laws state services have to be provided to the LGBT community, EXCEPT, for special circumstances. Who defines what those special services are and how are they administered?
Providing certain rights but not all rights to the LGBT Community is toxic to our society. It will hurt people if it doesn't already.
What qualifications does it take to fly in a jet? Certain jets are set aside for the LGBT Community? Is Amtrak exempt from any rules and must provide accommodations for the entire public or is a Christian noting the RFRA law which states they have special status and cannot sit in the same train car as any LGBT person to be accommodated?
RFRA rules are nighmares and belong nowhere in American legislation that passes into law.
