I am not surprised it will hours to reach the aircraft. BUT. It is only hours and not days and weeks.
Those recovering the site need to start to plan for the worst conditions possible to recover what lies there.
The wind conditions in the region is probably difficult. But, there will most probably be a need for "Hueys" or whatever is the equivalent today. Weather conditions at the site will dictate the ability to recover the entire fuselage. The actual jet may not be recoverable. The human toll and the black box should be recoverable. The people and the equipment may have to be brought down the mountain with sleds and arctic equipment.
No one in the world needs more tragedy by risk taking in the recovery. Thank you.
There is enough risk built into these regions. No one needs to add more. The people able to respond are specialists. The call needs to go out to bring those able to the scene and then leave them alone to carry out a recovery with safety. Give them what they need and ask for.
France will need a coordinator/team leader to the efforts with military background. I think Alaska also has a unique team for these occasions. It will get done.
I don't believe this one:
February 18, 2015
Soldiers from 12 countries and units all over the United States convened to discuss tactics, programs, and pedagogy on training military forces for operating in extreme cold environments. (Photo: Zachariah Hughes, KSKA).
Just as the Defense Department (click here) is putting the country’s military focus on the Arctic and Pacific, the U.S. Army in Alaska held its first ever international summit on cold weather combat. Elite specialists in mountaineering, skiing, and Arctic survival came to the Northern Warfare Training Center near Fairbanks to learn new techniques for fighting in terrain that can itself be a weapon against troops....
Leave it to Obama. Well, there seems to be a ready unit to do the impossible. Crevasses are no joke. They have to know what they are doing and this is a READY TEAM. The folks involved have to take care of and look out for each other in these environments.
This doesn't preclude a civilian team either. There are those probably more experienced and trustworthy to carry out the recovery, too. Climbers are awesome people. They know the responsibility to each other on a team. It is inherent to the craft.
Can jet computers be hacked? I've made that observation before in relation to drone military. It's ridiculous to rely on computers at the very least in a methodology for the defense of a sovereign country. Would someone want to make a point and hacked the computer? Anything is possible. I think the last person in "Anonymous" is in jail as of about a month ago, so it ain't them.
Sabotage for life insurance? No. That requires a lot of expertise to carry out such a plot. The chance of making that connection from an average commercial flight is nearly zero.
It would have to be a sophisticated computer expert and that would be a government authority, not a commercial one. I would not believe an incident like that could be accomplished by any one person. In my opinion it would require a government capacity.
I will say though, all these online access sites that provide information about where jets are in their route would provide an access point to the transponders at the very least. The transponders should be secured as an 'end point' to their purpose. In other words, there needs to be dedicated transponders to that information that does not lead to the computer flying the jet.
That outcome is an interesting 'mind game' but I don't believe it is realistic to consider it as a serious reason for the loss of this jet and the people aboard. I trust the major powers in the world. It is far different to hack into "Target Stores" and create mischief and the downing of a commercial jet. I would not expect any government to allow this type of disaster with their computer capacity. Any government on this planet has far better things to do with their computers. I trust them.
It would require a rouge in order to have that occur and it would require 'practice' to carry out such a tragedy. If there was someone practicing on a government computer to commit murder I am fairly sure it would be picked up before it occurred. Computers are assessed on a regular basis. It would be a real surprise for any government to be that negligence. The USA has incredible capacity to detect such activity. Probably on a global basis to the disappointment of Chancellor Merkel.
I just don't see that as a potential. Sorry. Interesting thought.
The Associated Press is reporting a passenger hearing noise? Wow. That could be structural integrity. In the absence of any other cause. The airlines need to do that research and don't stop with Western Pilots and airlines, invite everyone, including China and Russian commercial airlines. Those pilots fly some turbulent places. Iceland Air has amazing pilots. Everyone gets in on the project and the report is provided to everyone. This is my idea and while costs can be returned to the companies involved through whatever sources provide it, the report is to be free to everyone. End of discussion! No one is going to make a million $$$ on this project. It needs to be done. Experts can receive their pay. If all the major airlines got together they could accomplish a cooperative account in a reputable bank for their project. No outrageous expenses and 5 star hotels. Complimentary breakfast is the best they get.
Those recovering the site need to start to plan for the worst conditions possible to recover what lies there.
The wind conditions in the region is probably difficult. But, there will most probably be a need for "Hueys" or whatever is the equivalent today. Weather conditions at the site will dictate the ability to recover the entire fuselage. The actual jet may not be recoverable. The human toll and the black box should be recoverable. The people and the equipment may have to be brought down the mountain with sleds and arctic equipment. No one in the world needs more tragedy by risk taking in the recovery. Thank you.
There is enough risk built into these regions. No one needs to add more. The people able to respond are specialists. The call needs to go out to bring those able to the scene and then leave them alone to carry out a recovery with safety. Give them what they need and ask for.
France will need a coordinator/team leader to the efforts with military background. I think Alaska also has a unique team for these occasions. It will get done.
I don't believe this one:
Soldiers from 12 countries and units all over the United States convened to discuss tactics, programs, and pedagogy on training military forces for operating in extreme cold environments. (Photo: Zachariah Hughes, KSKA).
Just as the Defense Department (click here) is putting the country’s military focus on the Arctic and Pacific, the U.S. Army in Alaska held its first ever international summit on cold weather combat. Elite specialists in mountaineering, skiing, and Arctic survival came to the Northern Warfare Training Center near Fairbanks to learn new techniques for fighting in terrain that can itself be a weapon against troops....
This doesn't preclude a civilian team either. There are those probably more experienced and trustworthy to carry out the recovery, too. Climbers are awesome people. They know the responsibility to each other on a team. It is inherent to the craft.
Can jet computers be hacked? I've made that observation before in relation to drone military. It's ridiculous to rely on computers at the very least in a methodology for the defense of a sovereign country. Would someone want to make a point and hacked the computer? Anything is possible. I think the last person in "Anonymous" is in jail as of about a month ago, so it ain't them.
Sabotage for life insurance? No. That requires a lot of expertise to carry out such a plot. The chance of making that connection from an average commercial flight is nearly zero.
It would have to be a sophisticated computer expert and that would be a government authority, not a commercial one. I would not believe an incident like that could be accomplished by any one person. In my opinion it would require a government capacity.
I will say though, all these online access sites that provide information about where jets are in their route would provide an access point to the transponders at the very least. The transponders should be secured as an 'end point' to their purpose. In other words, there needs to be dedicated transponders to that information that does not lead to the computer flying the jet.
That outcome is an interesting 'mind game' but I don't believe it is realistic to consider it as a serious reason for the loss of this jet and the people aboard. I trust the major powers in the world. It is far different to hack into "Target Stores" and create mischief and the downing of a commercial jet. I would not expect any government to allow this type of disaster with their computer capacity. Any government on this planet has far better things to do with their computers. I trust them.
It would require a rouge in order to have that occur and it would require 'practice' to carry out such a tragedy. If there was someone practicing on a government computer to commit murder I am fairly sure it would be picked up before it occurred. Computers are assessed on a regular basis. It would be a real surprise for any government to be that negligence. The USA has incredible capacity to detect such activity. Probably on a global basis to the disappointment of Chancellor Merkel.
I just don't see that as a potential. Sorry. Interesting thought.
The Associated Press is reporting a passenger hearing noise? Wow. That could be structural integrity. In the absence of any other cause. The airlines need to do that research and don't stop with Western Pilots and airlines, invite everyone, including China and Russian commercial airlines. Those pilots fly some turbulent places. Iceland Air has amazing pilots. Everyone gets in on the project and the report is provided to everyone. This is my idea and while costs can be returned to the companies involved through whatever sources provide it, the report is to be free to everyone. End of discussion! No one is going to make a million $$$ on this project. It needs to be done. Experts can receive their pay. If all the major airlines got together they could accomplish a cooperative account in a reputable bank for their project. No outrageous expenses and 5 star hotels. Complimentary breakfast is the best they get.
