Look, the Republicans are scaredy cats. That is just a fact. They are full of fears no one is going to resolve, especially if it gets them power in elections.
That aside, the issues facing the USA in regard to prisoner treatment and the cost of Gitmo can't be denied. There is a larger world that is in decent of that facility and the treatment of prisoners. This is not an artificial provision proposal.
That aside, the issues facing the USA in regard to prisoner treatment and the cost of Gitmo can't be denied. There is a larger world that is in decent of that facility and the treatment of prisoners. This is not an artificial provision proposal.
...“Why would you want to reduce the standard?” (click here) asked Sen. Kelly Ayotte, who along with Sen. Saxby Chambliss, is working on amendments to preserve the current high bar for transfers. Both are Republicans.
Even if the Senate passes the White House-backed legislation, the House earlier this year approved a measure that further restricts transfers, including an outright ban on sending detainees to Yemen. Yemen is a particular challenge since more than half of the 164 detainees are from there. It’s also home to the world’s most active al-Qaida branch....
Senator Ayotte is inappropriate in her concern. She excludes the reality of the world that is disapproving of the USA's use of Gitmo. That statement about reducing the standard alone reveals ineffective understanding of the concerns about that facility and stubbornly so. But, she went on to say more than this on the Senate floor.
Senator Ayotte clearly stated she was concerned about recidivism of the detainees already released and most concerned about their ability to come to the USA to have such dangers happen again as hardened criminals.
Whether or not they get to the USA is NOT a reason to continue their incarceration. THAT is immigration reform and making sure the demands for Visas are reflecting the ability of illegitimate use of this commodity. That is what is suppose to be the focus, not keeping detainees at Gitmo. The detainees aren't the only ones trying to get to the USA to cause citizens harm, so that focus is nonsense.
As far as recidivism? That is simply a reality. Saudi Arabia's program to rehab their jihadists is about the best in the world. But. Their program does have recidivism up to 50% at times. So that is simply a fact of life. The answer to recidivism is not about imprisoning individuals, it is about intelligence and preventing such issues from effecting the national security of the USA.
The detainees that seem to be at Gitmo forever have to be reviewed for their ability to cause the USA any harm from inside a prison on USA soil. If the national security of the USA is intact there should be no concern about closing Gitmo and it may very well prove to be an enhancement to this country's security. Doesn't anyone stop to realize if there was going to be a prison break it would have happened already? I mean Gitmo is not all that.
This continued problem has to come to an end. It is inappropriate to hold POWs beyond the end of any war and for those that have committed murder or conspired to do so, they need to be sentenced and imprisoned for the rest of their natural life. This is getting silly.
POWs are held to limit the ability of a military to carry out war. It is removal of soldiers from the battlefield. That ends when the war ends and the POWs are returned to their originating countries. The idea those involved will carrying out assaults against the USA infrastructure and killing citizens is not going to be solved by Gitmo; it is not accurate and a faux sense of security.
...Obama himself imposed a ban on Yemeni transfers from Guantanamo after a Nigerian man attempted to blow up a U.S.-bound flight on Christmas 2009 with explosives hidden in his underwear on instructions from al-Qaida operatives in Yemen. But Obama lifted that moratorium in his speech on May 23 at National Defense University in which he said Guantanamo “has become a symbol around the world for an America that flouts the rule of law.”...
This has NOTHING to do with Gitmo. This is about intelligence and infrastructure.
Yemen has some of the worst infrastructure to control jihadists as opposed to Saudi Arabia. To that fact I would expect intelligence to close the gap, but, to realize someone had a bomb in their underwear and was successful shows the lack of prowess of The West's infrastructure to detect it. There is nothing to say these dangers are exclusive to Gitmo detainees and to that end is a huge error in protecting citizens.
Holding onto detainees is not the way to resolve these dangers. One might realize the profound poverty Yemen experiences and THE FACT countries with these problems spawn jihadists to attack The West and otherwise. I mean Russia is not immune to such attacks either. They tend to come from regions near Russia, but, they can be joined and/or influenced by others as well.
We know jihadists come from impoverishment. Gitmo is false security. Heck, the monies the USA is spending on Gitmo is better served by improving the quality of life of Yemenis if that is what is the worry. Give people less reason to actually find it purposeful to attack The West. Holding POWs does not go on forever. If that is the paradigm The Right Wing is proposing for the Gitmo detainees, then they are setting hideous precedent for our own soldiers.
Senator Ayotte is inappropriate in her concern. She excludes the reality of the world that is disapproving of the USA's use of Gitmo. That statement about reducing the standard alone reveals ineffective understanding of the concerns about that facility and stubbornly so. But, she went on to say more than this on the Senate floor.
Senator Ayotte clearly stated she was concerned about recidivism of the detainees already released and most concerned about their ability to come to the USA to have such dangers happen again as hardened criminals.
Whether or not they get to the USA is NOT a reason to continue their incarceration. THAT is immigration reform and making sure the demands for Visas are reflecting the ability of illegitimate use of this commodity. That is what is suppose to be the focus, not keeping detainees at Gitmo. The detainees aren't the only ones trying to get to the USA to cause citizens harm, so that focus is nonsense.
As far as recidivism? That is simply a reality. Saudi Arabia's program to rehab their jihadists is about the best in the world. But. Their program does have recidivism up to 50% at times. So that is simply a fact of life. The answer to recidivism is not about imprisoning individuals, it is about intelligence and preventing such issues from effecting the national security of the USA.
The detainees that seem to be at Gitmo forever have to be reviewed for their ability to cause the USA any harm from inside a prison on USA soil. If the national security of the USA is intact there should be no concern about closing Gitmo and it may very well prove to be an enhancement to this country's security. Doesn't anyone stop to realize if there was going to be a prison break it would have happened already? I mean Gitmo is not all that.
This continued problem has to come to an end. It is inappropriate to hold POWs beyond the end of any war and for those that have committed murder or conspired to do so, they need to be sentenced and imprisoned for the rest of their natural life. This is getting silly.
POWs are held to limit the ability of a military to carry out war. It is removal of soldiers from the battlefield. That ends when the war ends and the POWs are returned to their originating countries. The idea those involved will carrying out assaults against the USA infrastructure and killing citizens is not going to be solved by Gitmo; it is not accurate and a faux sense of security.
...Obama himself imposed a ban on Yemeni transfers from Guantanamo after a Nigerian man attempted to blow up a U.S.-bound flight on Christmas 2009 with explosives hidden in his underwear on instructions from al-Qaida operatives in Yemen. But Obama lifted that moratorium in his speech on May 23 at National Defense University in which he said Guantanamo “has become a symbol around the world for an America that flouts the rule of law.”...
This has NOTHING to do with Gitmo. This is about intelligence and infrastructure.
Yemen has some of the worst infrastructure to control jihadists as opposed to Saudi Arabia. To that fact I would expect intelligence to close the gap, but, to realize someone had a bomb in their underwear and was successful shows the lack of prowess of The West's infrastructure to detect it. There is nothing to say these dangers are exclusive to Gitmo detainees and to that end is a huge error in protecting citizens.
Holding onto detainees is not the way to resolve these dangers. One might realize the profound poverty Yemen experiences and THE FACT countries with these problems spawn jihadists to attack The West and otherwise. I mean Russia is not immune to such attacks either. They tend to come from regions near Russia, but, they can be joined and/or influenced by others as well.
We know jihadists come from impoverishment. Gitmo is false security. Heck, the monies the USA is spending on Gitmo is better served by improving the quality of life of Yemenis if that is what is the worry. Give people less reason to actually find it purposeful to attack The West. Holding POWs does not go on forever. If that is the paradigm The Right Wing is proposing for the Gitmo detainees, then they are setting hideous precedent for our own soldiers.
