April 8, 2009
By FOX News
...The spokesman (click here) pointed out a lengthy response Obama gave at a town hall meeting in California in March, when Obama called for strengthening the border and creating a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. He did not give a timeframe, however, for when this debate would occur.
"This is not going to be a free ride. It's not going to be some instant amnesty," Obama said at the time. "What's going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine. You are going to learn English. You are going to go to the back of the line so that you don't get ahead of somebody who was in Mexico City applying legally. But after you've done these things, over a certain period of time you can earn your citizenship."...
I would like President Obama to say, the standards demanded of the country to carry out immigration reform are impossible to reach and Congress has to change their methodology in drawing up the law.
The rant about border security and paying taxes and a fine are huge hurdles. I realize the Hispanic community and their legislators 'go along in an attempt to get along' to bring relief to their community in the USA, but, it isn't right, moral or realistic.
Ronald Reagan signed a bill stating the influx of the Undocumented had to stop and then provided amnesty to those already in the USA. The influx never stopped and this is how the right wing has imposed an impossible standard for their political position.
There has been enormous amounts of money put into closing any flaws in the southern border, but, the truth is all those measures have failed in some way. The fence was caught up in shifting sands and had to be reworked to keep the fence floating on sand rather than being buried by it. These are very costly measures. The idea the southern border can be closed 100% belongs in the research lab rather than throwing good money after bad. The approach to closing the border is nothing but political. There is no real research about our southern border to guide the way forward.
With the reality the southern border has never had a measure to close any flaws it remains the government's problem and not that of an immigrant population already here.
That said, the promise to the Undocumented is obvious. That promise should have a degree of brevity in the methodology of providing relief to the Hispanic community. There is also the reality young people have grown up in the USA, known no other country as their own and should be allowed to stay without question.
The morality of the question regarding immigration reform is dense with proof. The H2 Visa program is victimizing human beings. Additionally the young people that have grown up in this country belong here. They are ours. We have spent monies to educate them and no doubt there were monies spent to maintain their health and well being. It was the right thing to do when they were young and it the right thing to do today.
Those young people have families and we are victimizing our own by stating the family has to be split up and Undocumented family has to return to Mexico. These families have been in the USA long enough to raise their children. It is a generation of family in this country. They belong here as well.
Fines and taxes are wrong unless the family/individual has a highly successful income. Below $250,000 per year is the standard to determine wealth in most legislation when it comes up. There is always the complaint that Middle Class in NYC is actually below $400,000. Basically, that is not the majority problem of the USA and decisions regarding what wealth is and is not should be determined by the majority of Americans, not the chosen few that haven't made it to the status of million/billionaire at the hand of taxation. Boo-hoo.
Analyzing any applicant for citizenship that have been in the USA for decades should require a background check and then it should be moved to litigation to determine any fines or detention in a prison facility. That has to be levied in the USA, but, to deport anyone after decades of time in the USA is a criminal record they earned here and not in Mexico. Why should Mexico be forced to mitigate criminals who have earned their activities in the USA? These people will simply be turned loose in Mexico to carry out their crimes there. Mexico does not need more corruption, it needs far less.
So, the entire DEMANDS by the politicians in the USA to facilitate voters' favor in elections is based in fantasy and not reality. The USA has benefited by the Undocumented, there is absolutely no reason to treat them less than a citizen.
The current methodology demanded in any proposals has to be trashed and reality has to be instilled. These are people, not a commodity. I realize that is a stretch for Republicans, but, they can move forward with a far different methodology WITHOUT costing the taxpaying Americans any more hardship. By the way, the longer politicians take to pass immigration reform, the US Treasury will be lacking income. That lack of income is not the problem of the Undocumented, they want to stay and pay taxes, it is the political football that is keeping them from being vested as a full citizen.
By FOX News
...The spokesman (click here) pointed out a lengthy response Obama gave at a town hall meeting in California in March, when Obama called for strengthening the border and creating a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants. He did not give a timeframe, however, for when this debate would occur.
"This is not going to be a free ride. It's not going to be some instant amnesty," Obama said at the time. "What's going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine. You are going to learn English. You are going to go to the back of the line so that you don't get ahead of somebody who was in Mexico City applying legally. But after you've done these things, over a certain period of time you can earn your citizenship."...
I would like President Obama to say, the standards demanded of the country to carry out immigration reform are impossible to reach and Congress has to change their methodology in drawing up the law.
The rant about border security and paying taxes and a fine are huge hurdles. I realize the Hispanic community and their legislators 'go along in an attempt to get along' to bring relief to their community in the USA, but, it isn't right, moral or realistic.
Ronald Reagan signed a bill stating the influx of the Undocumented had to stop and then provided amnesty to those already in the USA. The influx never stopped and this is how the right wing has imposed an impossible standard for their political position.
There has been enormous amounts of money put into closing any flaws in the southern border, but, the truth is all those measures have failed in some way. The fence was caught up in shifting sands and had to be reworked to keep the fence floating on sand rather than being buried by it. These are very costly measures. The idea the southern border can be closed 100% belongs in the research lab rather than throwing good money after bad. The approach to closing the border is nothing but political. There is no real research about our southern border to guide the way forward.
With the reality the southern border has never had a measure to close any flaws it remains the government's problem and not that of an immigrant population already here.
That said, the promise to the Undocumented is obvious. That promise should have a degree of brevity in the methodology of providing relief to the Hispanic community. There is also the reality young people have grown up in the USA, known no other country as their own and should be allowed to stay without question.
The morality of the question regarding immigration reform is dense with proof. The H2 Visa program is victimizing human beings. Additionally the young people that have grown up in this country belong here. They are ours. We have spent monies to educate them and no doubt there were monies spent to maintain their health and well being. It was the right thing to do when they were young and it the right thing to do today.
Those young people have families and we are victimizing our own by stating the family has to be split up and Undocumented family has to return to Mexico. These families have been in the USA long enough to raise their children. It is a generation of family in this country. They belong here as well.
Fines and taxes are wrong unless the family/individual has a highly successful income. Below $250,000 per year is the standard to determine wealth in most legislation when it comes up. There is always the complaint that Middle Class in NYC is actually below $400,000. Basically, that is not the majority problem of the USA and decisions regarding what wealth is and is not should be determined by the majority of Americans, not the chosen few that haven't made it to the status of million/billionaire at the hand of taxation. Boo-hoo.
Analyzing any applicant for citizenship that have been in the USA for decades should require a background check and then it should be moved to litigation to determine any fines or detention in a prison facility. That has to be levied in the USA, but, to deport anyone after decades of time in the USA is a criminal record they earned here and not in Mexico. Why should Mexico be forced to mitigate criminals who have earned their activities in the USA? These people will simply be turned loose in Mexico to carry out their crimes there. Mexico does not need more corruption, it needs far less.
So, the entire DEMANDS by the politicians in the USA to facilitate voters' favor in elections is based in fantasy and not reality. The USA has benefited by the Undocumented, there is absolutely no reason to treat them less than a citizen.
The current methodology demanded in any proposals has to be trashed and reality has to be instilled. These are people, not a commodity. I realize that is a stretch for Republicans, but, they can move forward with a far different methodology WITHOUT costing the taxpaying Americans any more hardship. By the way, the longer politicians take to pass immigration reform, the US Treasury will be lacking income. That lack of income is not the problem of the Undocumented, they want to stay and pay taxes, it is the political football that is keeping them from being vested as a full citizen.
